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Started by tecsan at 13,Sep,22 07:10  other posts of tecsan
Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.



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By Guess_Who at 10,Nov,26 21:46 other posts of Guess_Who 
BJUK was caught being a simple cock sucker.. He knows it now and not showing up in chat anymore..


By phart at 07,Nov,26 21:27 other posts of phart 
This is how democrats "win" , they loose votes!
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By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 10:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It was an upload error, not physical theft: According to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, the physical memory card was not stolen or missing from the building. The local board of elections simply failed to properly upload its contents into the central election management system on election night.

The system caught the human error: The discrepancy was flagged during routine quality checks. The county noticed that the number of voters who checked in didn't match the number of digital ballots cast, which prompted them to look for the un-uploaded data. As Raffensperger noted, "Georgia's election safeguards are designed to identify discrepancies, and that is exactly what these guardrails did."

If you want a real systemic issue from this exact 2026 election cycle, look at what happened in Georgia in August 2025. The state quietly conducted one of the largest mass removals in U.S. history, purging 471,000 voter registrations (~6% of the state's total).
Civil rights groups like Black Voters Matter literally sued the Secretary of State in February 2026, because the state refused to turn over the full records on who they kicked off and how they picked them.
By phart at 10,Nov,26 14:01 other posts of phart 
only registered users can see external links
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Nov,26 15:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What?

Republicans didn't win that state, they stole it,
because their fuckery was at record levels.

• The "Use It or Lose It" Policy: Georgia law allows the state to target registered voters who have not participated in recent elections. If these individuals do not respond to a single piece of mail, their registration is canceled. In 2017 alone, under then-Secretary of State Brian Kemp, over 500,000 voters were purged from the rolls in a single day, a move that heavily penalized infrequent, younger, and lower-income voters.

• Flawed Data Processing: Independent investigations, such as those conducted for the AP and specialized voting rights organizations, found that tens of thousands of citizens were wrongly removed under the assumption they had moved, when they had actually remained at their registered addresses.

• Disproportionate Impact on Minorities: Any minor discrepancy—such as a missing hyphen, an apostrophe, a typographical error by a government worker, or a maiden name variation—led to a registration being flagged and frozen.

• Targeting Specific Demographics: In the lead-up to the 2018 midterm elections, approximately 53,000 voter registrations were placed on hold under this policy; an analysis of the data showed that nearly 70% of those blocked registrations belonged to Black applicants.

• Targeted Closures: Between 2012 and 2018, Georgia municipalities closed more than 200 polling stations across the state. These closures were heavily concentrated in deep-blue urban areas and low-income, predominantly Black neighborhoods.

• Calculated Delays: The reduction of polling places, combined with a lack of functioning voting machines allocated to these specific districts, created a bottleneck. Voters in minority precincts routinely faced waiting times of four to eight hours to cast their ballots, which acted as a direct economic and physical deterrent to voting.

• Restricting Mail-In and Drop-Box Voting: The law severely limited the number of mail-in ballot drop boxes, capped their operating hours, and placed them inside government buildings, making them inaccessible outside of standard business hours. It also shortened the window to request an absentee ballot.

• Criminalizing Voter Support: The legislation made it a misdemeanor to distribute water or food to voters waiting in the hours-long lines outside polling stations, a measure explicitly seen as a punitive action against heavily populated voting precincts.

• State Takeover of Election Boards: The law granted the state legislature the power to suspend local county election officials. This allowed a partisan state body to intervene in the management and certification of election results in heavily Democratic counties like Fulton.

• Mass Target Campaigns: Leveraging the law, conservative activist groups submitted challenges against hundreds of thousands of individual voters right before elections, using automated data matching that frequently misidentified eligible citizens. This forced cash-strapped local boards to process massive volumes of challenges and created confusion, intimidation, and provisional ballot requirements for valid voters.

So spare me your nonsense about 253 votes. A lot of Republicans need to be
put in prison to defend future elections.





By leopoldij at 30,Oct,26 00:35 other posts of leopoldij 
Why are the elections in the US so fraudulent and so rigged? Why can't they make them honest?
By phart at 30,Oct,26 00:46 other posts of phart 
good question, there is a MESS in Alaska right now, seems a democrat hired someone with the same name as another candidate to confuse voters.
All we as average citizens have been asking for is voter id and honesty. and so many are against that.
By leopoldij at 31,Oct,26 12:02 other posts of leopoldij 
Interesting. Why vote then, if the elections are fraudulent?
By phart at 31,Oct,26 15:11 other posts of phart 
Well, leo, if you aren't part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. If we don't vote ,we are almost garrunteed a bunch of democrats in office because of all the mail in ballots. You have just never actually sat down and studied how easy it is to get a ballot to vote illegit. A person did it that I know ,just to show it could be done .He took the address of a closed down factory building, made up a name, and registered it as independent, got a ballot!. that simple. How often is that being done by folks for reasons other than just proving it could be done? Just like the stimulus checks, my neighbors parents got checks, they had been DEAD for 3 years!
By CAT52! at 31,Oct,26 23:32 other posts of CAT52! 
Phart. Quit hiding behind the “mail in ballot”. What happened in 2016 and 2024? Not enough mail in ballots? 🤣🤣
By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:14 other posts of Guess_Who 
of course,, all IQs < 70 think this way.... He won in 2016 and 24 because you can only make so much ballots. When Trump said democrates cast in fake ballots why haven't they stood up for it?
But I can see your IQ < 70 so all is good


By leopoldij at 01,Nov,26 13:34 other posts of leopoldij 
Wow, it's so easy to cast a fake vote.
And it seems that only Democrats are voting fraudulently.
At least the maga people vote for trump and so they have no advantage to cheat.

Amazing stuff!

By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:18 other posts of Guess_Who 
You have to keep voting. Now I heard if you vote republican in tennessee the vote on the computer through an algorythem switches it to democrat.




By CAT52! at 31,Oct,26 14:39 other posts of CAT52! 
Who said they are.
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Guess_who, first you are a chickenshit hiding behind blocking. Second. If you think that the only way to win an election is by cheating then I guess the Clown cheated in 2016 and 2024.
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I had to block him back. He kept trashing my gallery. That’s a real no-no for me
By leopoldij at 01,Nov,26 21:45 other posts of leopoldij 
President Trump said it. So o believe him. 🤑

By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:19 other posts of Guess_Who 
You're cunt looks so fucking nasty on the avatar.. Man its nasty......
No,, he was voted in fair and square

By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 04:59 other posts of Guess_Who 
I had to block you... Your twat is such a filthy pig I had to block you. raccid beast..


By Guess_Who at 31,Oct,26 17:47 other posts of Guess_Who 
Because the democrats know they would lose in a straight up election.
By phart at 31,Oct,26 19:22 other posts of phart 
Well what folks don't seem to understand is, if they vote democrat november 3rd, and the dems get a majority, the next 2 years will be spent,uh wasted rather, on Trump Revenge. The dems will do NOTHING to fix the perceived problems.The dems just hate Trump,and that is all that matters to them. Gas will be just as high in a years time as it is now if NOT higher ,because they want us driving electric or walking like 500 years ago.

IF Dems spoke like Kennedy did ,"ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" or something to that effect, more folks would listen to them,vote for them and etc. but they have gone so far left feild. Look at Minnesota, MILLIONS in fraud, politician that married her BROTHER for goodness sake,"oh he is gay" so there was no sex, yea right.
By Guess_Who at 31,Oct,26 19:36 other posts of Guess_Who 
Kennedy's philosophy is a beautiful quote. In my faith the strongest man is altruistic for what a country is. The giving to a simple human being. If you treat an animal with kindness and love they are going to love you back. The future is seen as a country that the people represent as empathy and love for each other..
Now in 2026 for the most part this idea has been destroyed by the invasion of socialism/communism. People are stupid now. Propaganda as indeed destroyed the vulnerable now they tried to get children as low as 10 years old the right to vote. Thankfully the supreme court overturned. If the house wins they will not propose a bill for the better good. Same with the senate and I'm hoping and feel the poles are wrong and wrong since when I can remember. So therefore they are wrong which means they don't want you to know the truth. Trump was forceasted to lose with that bimbo harris.. Who won?
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 09:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
For the fun of it, I presented you comment to ChatGPT, for analysis. It did actually find some points, but I have no desire to engage with you, because you are not an honest actor. I will just present the highlights of ChatGPT's reaction:

Yes. 😂 I think I can make sense of what he's trying to say, although his message is quite incoherent and jumps between several subjects.
He's essentially combining a few political, moral and ideological arguments into one rather confused rant.

His claim ----- What we can establish
Children aged 10 were going to get voting rights ---- He gives no bill, state or evidence to support this.
The Supreme Court overturned it ---- He doesn't identify a ruling.
Socialism destroyed empathy ---- That's his political opinion, not an established fact.
Polls were wrong about Trump ---- Some polls underestimated Trump, but polling is not the same as deliberately misleading people.
Trump won against Harris ---- Correct. Trump won 312 electoral votes to Harris's 226.

The most interesting contradiction is that he starts by talking about empathy, kindness, altruism and treating people well, but then calls people stupid, refers to Harris as a "bimbo" and dismisses anyone who disagrees with his political views. That's quite a contrast.

My interpretation is that he's trying to communicate:

"I'm a traditional, patriotic American. I believe in kindness, personal responsibility and putting the country first. I believe left-wing politics, socialism and mainstream media have corrupted society. I support Trump because I think he represents the truth, and I distrust institutions that disagree with my worldview."
That's the underlying message. But he mixes genuine philosophical ideas with political assumptions, unsupported claims and personal insults.

In short: He starts with JFK's philosophy of public service and ends with a partisan political rant. The two parts don't sit particularly comfortably together.

A rather sharp but intelligent response:

You started with a rather beautiful thought about empathy, kindness and altruism. Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, you seem to have lost sight of those very values yourself.

You speak about treating people with kindness and respect, yet your message is full of contempt for people who don't share your political views.

Perhaps the real question isn't whether socialism or communism has destroyed empathy, but whether we are capable of practising the empathy we so readily preach.

Remember, this is not me, just ChatGPT. You don't deserve MY effort.


By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,26 09:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If Democrats even stop things turning worse, that is progress.
It's impossible for them to do a worse job than Trump.

Anyway, I hope that they will spend lots of time on REVENGE.
It's justified, because Trump has used his presidency to keep him out of prison.
But unlike Republicans, they actually have plans to make things better.
You just don't like those things. You are very clear that you want life to suck.

'Bimbo Harris' is completely made up to justify voting for PED0PHILE TRUMP.

My evidence for calling Trump a ped0phile: Trump sues the shit out of everyone,
except the people who call him a ped0phile. That's because in discovery he has to release the remaining Epstein files, where his name occurs more often than Jesus
in the bible. The remaining files should be called the 'Trump files'.
By phart at 01,Nov,26 17:01 other posts of phart 
How will dems revenge on Trump HELP the American people and make life better for them in the NEAR future?
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 09:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Because accountability is important for protecting democracy.
By phart at 03,Nov,26 19:18 other posts of phart 
Ok so bread in the grocery store will be cheaper january 2027?
So gas will be 2 dollars a gallon january 2027,
etc,
Because accountability is important?

They will not do friggen thing to FIX anything, it will all be centered around revenge.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If there is no accountability, Republicans will do/try this again.
For the protection of democracy, lots of them need to go behind bars.
That's the ONLY thing that can FIX your democracy.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 02:18 other posts of phart 
You still have not answered my question, how is the democrats going to help the American people by taking revenge on Trump instead of actually fixing issues like high prices and etc? Accountability will not fix that if you jailed everyone in washington.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 10:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Have you seen Trump saying what he was going to do for the American people?
He was just talking about his ballroom, his reflective pool and renaming shit.

And why would I even answer that question, if the American people were of
zero concern to you while Trump was in office?

And I in fact DID answer your question, because I explained that the Democrats cannot do SHIT to help the American people, unless they act in a way that you consider 'taking revenge on Trump'.

But OK, I'll answer your question (again).

First of all; Democrats can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
Maybe Republicans make it look hard to actually do shit, but it ISN'T.
The struggle is purely on getting corrupt politicians to agree with it.

However, there is a real problem: Democrats cannot do much or anything to help the American people, as long as Trump is in office, because Trump just said that he would VETO everything. That means that getting Trump and all his cronies out (which you think is revenge) is the ONLY thing that Democrats can do to help the American people.

Understand that I have zero confidence in Democrats actually showing a pair,
and going after all the perps of the incredible corruption and crimes, but they SHOULD, or the next chance Republicans get, they will destroy democracy for ever. Also, if the Democrats fail to do that, the current MAGA system will be able to block everything, the American people see no results for their votes, and too much of them can sadly be stupid enough to vote for Republicans again in 2028.

What Democrats COULD do, when Trump doesn't veto it, or is in prison,
are the next Core Democratic Legislative Goals:

* Rebuilding Domestic Infrastructure: Modernizing American roads, bridges, and energy grids creates stable, well-paying blue-collar jobs that cannot be outsourced, while ensuring local communities have safe drinking water and reliable power.

* Expanding Veteran Care: Providing comprehensive healthcare, mental health resources, and housing assistance guarantees that those who served the country receive the benefits they earned.

* Upgrading Border Technology and Personnel: Providing the U.S. Border Patrol with advanced fentanyl-detection screening at ports of entry, hiring more high-tech law enforcement personnel, and funding additional immigration judges to process backlogs ensures the physical border is secure and lethal drugs are intercepted before entering American communities.

* Securing Retirement Benefits: Protecting Social Security and Medicare from future budget cuts ensures that working-class Americans who paid into the system during their careers receive their full retirement checks and medical coverage.

* Lowering Prescription Drug Costs: Authorizing the government to negotiate directly with major pharmaceutical companies slashes the out-of-pocket price of essential medicines for families and seniors.

* Targeting Transnational Crime and Fentanyl: Directing ICE resources strictly toward dismantling drug cartels, human traffickers, and fentanyl smuggling networks focuses federal law enforcement on the actual security threats that devastate American communities.

* Mandating Law Enforcement Bodycams: Requiring ICE agents to wear bodycams protects innocent American citizens from cases of mistaken identity, provides clear evidence during operations, and holds federal agencies accountable.

* Enforcing Judicial Warrants: Ensuring that federal agents must secure a judge's signature before entering properties upholds the Fourth Amendment right to privacy and protects the homes and businesses of all Americans from government overreach.

* Raising the Federal Minimum Wage: Increasing the baseline hourly wage ensures that full-time American workers can afford basic necessities like housing and groceries without relying on government assistance.

* Capping Healthcare Premiums: Expanding federal health insurance subsidies limits out-of-pocket insurance costs for families, ensuring that a medical emergency does not lead to household bankruptcy.

* Investing in Local Public Education: Directing federal funding toward local public schools and vocational training boosts math, science, and technical education, preparing American children for high-paying domestic jobs.

* Capping Childcare and Eldercare Costs: Creating a federal cap on the cost of childcare and eldercare ensures that working parents and families do not have to choose between keeping their jobs or paying exorbitant fees to care for their loved ones.

* Protecting the Domestic Supply Chain: Expanding federal incentives to bring back the production of vital goods—such as microchips, steel, and essential medicines—to American soil prevents global supply shortages and keeps critical industries safe from foreign control.

* Expanding Paid Family and Medical Leave: Establishing a baseline requirement for paid family and medical leave allows American workers to take time off to care for a newborn or recover from a serious illness without losing their income or risking their job security.


How It Is Paid For:

* Raising Corporate Tax Rates: Increasing the minimum tax rate on large corporations and closing loopholes that allow major companies to legally avoid paying federal taxes.

* Taxing High-Income Earners: Applying the Social Security payroll tax to incomes far above the current cap, ensuring the wealthiest individuals contribute the same percentage of their total earnings as working-class families.

* Imposing Penalties on Offshoring: Charging fees and removing tax breaks for American companies that move their factories and jobs to foreign countries.

* Leveraging Medicare Savings: Using the billions of dollars saved by negotiating lower drug prices with pharmaceutical companies to directly fund federal healthcare services.

* Closing Offshore Tax Havens: Ending legal loopholes that allow corporations and individuals to hide profits in foreign banks to avoid domestic taxes.

Does that answer your question?

To be clear, I don't think that impeaching Trump for anything right now is a good strategy. They should definitely file multiple articles of impeachment, but then investigate the shit out of Trump, his family, all his cronies, Elon Musk and DOGE. They will find so many crimes, that they can probably completely end all of the Republican party and its enablers.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 14:34 other posts of phart 
If those were actual democrat goals i wouldn't argue with them on 80% of it. But it's the way you want them to pay for it that takes away all incentive for anyone to do anything but leave. Taxes are already to high for the average person. Raising them on the high earners, will simply cause the cost of what the high earners produce and sell. There is plenty of potential in a wise discussion if we were both on the senate floor. But you REALLY need to look at your payment methods. that is what the republicans get pissed about. Just like in california. If you make about 375,000 a year,you are now stuck paying a higher tax rate than your neighbor that makes 340,000. why? You went to college,you invested in yourself and your company,and here comes commiefornia to take more of it, that tends to piss people off
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 16:00 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you even check anything, before you react to it? Even if you don't trust ChatGPT, ask Grok.

If those were actual Democratic goals? These ARE!!! They represent the EXACT framework the party has voted for, attempted to pass, and consistently fought for over the last DECADE. While political rhetoric can often cloud the core message, the actual legislative record shows a sustained effort to enact these exact policies, with about half successfully made into law and the other half actively blocked by Republicans.

When Democrats held the majority, they successfully passed massive, tangible pieces of legislation directly matching these points:
• Rebuilding Infrastructure: They passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law to modernize roads, bridges, and secure clean drinking water.
• Lowering Drug Costs & Healthcare Premiums: They passed the Inflation Reduction Act, giving Medicare the power to negotiate lower prescription drug prices and expanding subsidies to lower family premiums.
• Protecting Supply Chains: They passed the CHIPS and Science Act to bring vital microchip and high-tech manufacturing back to American soil to protect local industries.
• Expanding Veteran Care: They passed the PACT Act to deliver healthcare and benefits to veterans exposed to toxic environments.

For the remaining items on the list, Democrats have repeatedly drafted and introduced legislation, only for these goals to be blocked by Republican opposition and split party control:
• Raising the Minimum Wage: House Democrats repeatedly passed the Raise the Wage Act to lift the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, but it consistently failed to clear the Senate due to unified Republican opposition.
• Capping Childcare & Paid Leave: National paid family leave and federal caps on childcare and eldercare costs were originally central pillars of the Build Back Better framework, but they were entirely blocked and cut during fierce Senate negotiations to pass the final bill.
• Border Technology & ICE Accountability: Democrats have routinely introduced funding for advanced fentanyl-detection scanners and extra immigration judges, alongside proposals from progressive factions for mandatory ICE bodycams and judicial warrant enforcement.

However, these specific measures have been repeatedly blocked or stalled as part of the broader, ongoing partisan deadlock over comprehensive border security and immigration reform.
The list isn't just a wishlist; it is a direct summary of the exact legislative blueprint the Democratic Party has spent the last ten years fighting to implement, succeeding where they had the votes and being blocked where they did not.

How many more billions do those high earners NEED to have an incentive? What incentive do you have left after you earned your 100th million, or your 10th billion? Why do want to reward them so much, while your only incentive for the working class is avoiding hunger?

You clearly don't understand tax brackets. You don't take home less money than your neighbor by crossing into a higher bracket. That is a total myth. You and your neighbor pay the exact same rate on the first $340,000. You only pay the higher rate on the extra money above that line. You always make more by earning more. Your investment in college still entirely pays off.

As for prices going up if we tax the rich? Corporations are already charging record-high prices right now while hoarding record profits. Fair taxes don't cause inflation; they fund the infrastructure, public schools, and healthcare that actually lower the cost of living for the rest of us.
Donald Trump passed huge tax-cuts for the wealthy. Did it lower inflation?

You are complaining about taxing the person making $375k, while completely ignoring that multi-millionaires and billionaires don't even pay income tax.
Their wealth is tied up in stocks and assets, meaning they pay next to nothing.
Because the ultra-rich pay so little, the well-doing American who actually went to college and invested in themselves has to pick up the TAB and pay MORE.
Your side literally caused the exact problem you are accusing Democrats of. Republicans talk big about cutting spending, but they always blow up the deficit by cutting taxes for the top 1% and giant corporations, leaving the hard-working professional to pay the bill.

Someone has to pay for all your wars and presents to the wealthy. You are on your last leg, so they cannot squeeze you any further. So, they look at the exact person you say to worry about.
Trump squeezed those people like no other actually. He made healthcare even more expensive, put tariffs on almost everything, and created massive inflation by blowing up the national debt. Your costs shot up, but did your income?
Then he let corporate interests run wild, doing absolutely nothing about Big Oil companies making record profits over the backs of hard-working citizens.

Your side makes them angry about paying taxes, but because of Trump's federal debt explosion, skyrocketing health insurance premiums, student debt interest, the absolute minimum income a family needs just to start a baseline middle-class life anywhere in America has shot past $100,000. People used to be well off at that income, and Trump is turning them POOR.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 16:38 other posts of phart 
Do you know anyone that makes 400,000 a year? I do, and they didn't get where they are on the backs of the poor or the rich,they got there because of their own hard work and investments. what part of that you think should be punished I don't know.
According to googles answer to the question, do democrats like to raise taxes,
Democrats generally advocate for raising taxes on high-income households (typically defined as earning over $400,000), large corporations, and capital gains to fund social programs, infrastructure, and tax relief for low- and middle-income families. Democrats and independent analysts note that many of their proposals pledge not to raise income taxes on individuals earning under $400,000.
Pew Research Center +5
Republicans generally oppose broad tax increases and favor lower individual and corporate tax rates, arguing that high taxes stifle economic growth and job creation. Republican leaders frequently accuse Democrats of supporting massive tax hikes by voting against legislation that extends or makes permanent the individual tax cuts from the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which Republicans contend would result in higher tax bills for millions of families if allowed to expire. Conversely, critics of Republican plans sometimes argue that certain GOP proposals or expiring provisions disproportionately impact lower- and middle-income taxpayers


Question to google," do the democrats want to fix the problems America has or are they on a mission of revenge against trump" They want to fuck up things like the supreme court, something that is supposed to be non partisan. just because they don't agree with it. "
outline broader systemic goals, such as constraining executive power, reforming civil service hiring, addressing federal red tape, and pursuing structural changes like Supreme Court overhauls."
AI Overview

Following the 2026 midterm elections, where Democrats retook control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, the party's approach involves a dual focus on legislative and economic governance alongside congressional oversight and investigations into the Trump administration.

The Democratic Position: Policy and Governance

• Legislative and Economic Priorities: Democratic leaders and strategy groups have emphasized focusing on cost-of-living issues, healthcare, SNAP benefits, and working-class economic concerns. Proposals include policy platforms centered on wages, social programs, and addressing inflation or household expenses that resonated with voters during the midterms.
• Institutional and Reform Plans: Strategic proposals like Democratic Project 2029 via Vox outline broader systemic goals, such as constraining executive power, reforming civil service hiring, addressing federal red tape, and pursuing structural changes like Supreme Court overhauls.
• Internal Debates: Figures within the party—such as Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and various leadership aides—have cautioned against getting entirely consumed by partisan warfare, arguing that Democrats must maintain a constructive, evidence-based agenda to retain durable trust with the electorate rather than relying solely on attacks.

The Oversight and Investigation Focus (Views on Retribution)

• Congressional Subpoenas and Investigations: With control of congressional committees, Democrats are positioned to launch oversight investigations into executive branch operations, cabinet officials (such as potential scrutiny surrounding administration figures like Secretary of War Pete Hegseth), immigration enforcement tactics by ICE, and executive finances.
• Division Over Impeachment: While a strong undercurrent of desire for political retribution exists among some rank-and-file lawmakers, congressional leadership (including Senate and House leaders) has generally expressed skepticism or resistance toward pursuing a third impeachment trial against Donald Trump, noting the lack of a two-thirds majority in the Senate required for a conviction.
• Republican and Critic Perspectives: Republican figures, such as Representative Kat Cammack, have characterized the Democratic congressional majority's anticipated actions as a "vendetta" or political retaliation rather than a genuine effort to govern, while independent analysts note that Washington is bracing for heightened partisanship and clash-heavy oversight over the next two years
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 17:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you understand the difference between someone making $400,000 a year and a billionaire? Don't be daft.
You can make $400,000 a year without exploiting anyone, you CANNOT become a billionaire without exploiting lots and lots of people.

I'll look at the rest later. Until then, go sit in the shame corner for this oblivious argument.
By phart at 06,Nov,26 12:13 other posts of phart 
No,You go hide in the corner,
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Nov,26 13:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not the one who doesn't understand the difference
between upper middle class and billionaires.

About the Supreme Court; that branch of government is broken, and Republicans destroyed it. We can all see clearly how they corrupt the meaning of the Constitution, just to favor the wealthy elites who pay them off. That blatant corruption needs to end, by any means necessary, and I fully support the Democrats in fixing it. Call it whatever you want, I call it saving the system.

This is why you calling it 'political revenge' is so hypocritical; you constantly defend a rule of law with harsh punishments for regular citizens. Whenever someone is killed by the police or ICE, your immediate justification is that they should have complied. You also blamed a black teenager for getting shot, just for ringing the wrong doorbell at night. Your demand for flawless compliance applies to everyone you don't like.
But when it comes to Donald Trump or his cronies, your entire philosophy vanishes. Suddenly, holding a man accountable for a decade of crimes, corruption and trying to overturn an election is labeled as 'revenge'.
You want strict compliance for the powerless, but absolute immunity
for the people you like. I'm not having it.

Your side baselessly accuses independent prosecutors like Jack Smith of weaponizing the law, while Trump openly orders the DOJ to hunt down his political enemies. He literally used Truth Social to command Pam Bondi to prosecute Adam Schiff, James Comey, and Letitia James. When career prosecutor Erik Siebert refused to bring baseless charges due to a lack of evidence, Trump fired him and replaced him with his own defense lawyer to force the indictments through. We just watched his administration send federal agents to raid the home of Representative Ilhan Omar. He even uses DOJ officials and billions in campaign money to sue the media for his personal hurt feelings, all while lying about private citizens every single day. ‘Revenge’ is a massive understatement, for Trump acting like a rabid dog biting at everyone around him.

Democratic leadership like Hakeem Jeffries is focused on governance,
so I don't have any confidence that they are going to do what is needed
to restore the rule of law. Crying about 'political persecution' the moment Trump is held to the same standards as everyone else is pathetic.
Cry me a river!

Your exchange with AI made me laugh, it completely rejected your framing. You’ll probably cry bias, but that’s exactly what AI is built to prevent. If I try to make it accept a biased angle, I get the exact same objective results.
AI operates on facts and logic, not partisan echo chambers. It didn’t take your bait, because reality doesn’t support your narrative.
I use AI to eliminate biases from my argumentation and check facts.
You should try it sometimes to prepare a message before you send it.












By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:08 other posts of Guess_Who 
of course. Your peabrain mentality would look Trump as a p e dofile. All schizophreni-paranoic bi-polar narcissists reason that way. So I can see where you are coming from. In the meantime I suggest you go see a shrink for medicines.... All liberal Jew Hating Nazi people are this way.. Just like CAT52!
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 10:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You have no defense of Trump other than attacking the messenger. WEAK!

Direct quotes by Trump:

1. About Jeffrey Epstein (2002)
"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
— New York Magazine, 2002.

2. About entering beauty pageant dressing rooms (2005)
"I'll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it."
"They're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that."
— Howard Stern Show, April 2005.

3. About his 17-year-old daughter Ivanka (1999)
"She's 17 and doing great — Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her. So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited."
— Howard Stern Show.

4. About Ivanka's appearance (2004)
"Yeah."
— Trump's response when Howard Stern asked whether Ivanka could be described as a "piece of ass."

5. About Ivanka's breasts (2006)
"She's actually always been very voluptuous. She's tall, she's almost 6 feet tall, and she's been, she's an amazing beauty."
— Howard Stern Show.

6. About dating 21-year-olds (2002)
"Over the past couple of years, I'd go out with somebody and she's like 21, and she's talking about, you know, 'What are you doing?' and she's studying algebra."
— Howard Stern Show.

7. About women aged 24 (2006)
"Oh, absolutely. I'd have no trouble."
— Trump responding to Stern asking whether he could be dating 24-year-olds.

8. About Lindsay Lohan (2004)
"She's probably deeply troubled, and therefore great in bed."
— Howard Stern Show, discussing Lindsay Lohan, who was 18.

9. About women and sexual entitlement (2005 recording, released 2016)
"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait."
"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."
"Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."
— Access Hollywood recording.

10. About two 14-year-old girls (1992)
"Wow! Just think — in a couple of years I'll be dating you."
— Reported remark to two 14-year-old girls, attributed to Trump by contemporary newspaper reporting.

Your side called Biden a ped0, for supposedly smelling a girl's hair.
Trump's behavior is much much worse. These are JUST his own WORDS.
By phart at 03,Nov,26 19:19 other posts of phart 
Do you buy on ebay? Read the automatic feedback given to you when you buy something from a major seller. You would think they were complimenting God.Similar when famous people talk about each other.
Trump,as with any famous person,has a image to project,protect.
Do you honestly expect him to say, "OH he is a asshole,"
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What famous people talk about wanting to fuck their daughter and organizing
teen beauty pageants to peep on them? If this was any other person than Trump,
you would condemn them to hell.

I don't care that he's an asshole, I care that he is now associated with r@ping
an EIGHT YEAR OLD GIRL. He is the exact type of ped0phile elite cabal monster that QAnon was going mental about. I thought they were crazy, but it all turned out to be true, only about Republicans and not Democrats. Maybe even the satanic part will leak eventually. That would make it complete.

Any look into the history of Trump instantly reveals what a horrible man he has been for all of his life, and you lot are loyal like dogs to him. Why do you like evil people?

Meanwhile you need to pretend that your political enemies are evil people on no evidence whatsoever, while you reject mountains of evidence about the politicians that you keep supporting, for no good reason at all.

What reason do you have to lie to yourself?
By phart at 04,Nov,26 22:53 other posts of phart 
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I will post this again,not a politicain but why aren't you as angry about bill clinton being photoed in 1 of epstiens bathtubs?
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 11:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What's the argument, that there are other horrible famous people?
Sure, and there are also lots of decent and even exemplary celebrities.

If there were even the slightest reasons to suspect Clinton of a fraction
of what Trump is investigated for, I would indeed be just as angry.
Honestly, probably even angrier. I hold my political allies to a much higher standard of morals and ethics, than I do my political opponents.
Clinton is hardly an ally by Dutch standards, but the US only has 2 choices.

I expect representatives of my own party to not lie ever. That doesn't mean that I would force them to resign on the first lie that I catch them in, but I would certainly push a complaint up the ladder of responsibility. Meanwhile, we have become used to seeing politicians from the other side lie with total impunity, and their base doesn't seem to care at all. That is the real double standard.

My standards of evidence are the same for everyone. Facts and reason!
My trust in different sources is NOT the same for all. I evaluate a source based on its track record, whether their arguments and data are independently verifiable, and if they provide transparent evidence to support their claims in the first place.
A 'trust my words' attitude is an immediate red flag. Furthermore, I strictly look for financial or political conflicts of interest, a willingness to openly correct mistakes, and whether the claim can be verified by other credible, independent sources.




By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 22:48 other posts of Guess_Who 
Dope



By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:16 other posts of Guess_Who 
Another bone headed stupid reply that nothing more than a cunt swab.


By leopoldij at 02,Nov,26 12:49 other posts of leopoldij 
So Ilhan Omar had sex with her brother?
By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:12 other posts of Guess_Who 
She married her brother to get in the country ilegally... Unfortunately there are other reasons such as lying about her age to be an american citizen,, She lied about her name.. Much more
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 09:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No she didn't, she became a US citizen as a teen, because her father became a US citizen.

The specific law that allows foreign-born children to automatically become U.S. citizens when their parents naturalize is the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 (CCA), which is codified under Section 320 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

She could have lied about her age, but this (above) is what happened.
That's even the official story of your Trump regime. The rest is bullshit.
I expect this case to crumble, like most of Trump's cases.

Anyone of you following his case against the BBC?
"A Florida federal court recently issued a stern warning that the entire case could be dismissed due to his legal team's failure to cooperate with the discovery process." That's because in discovery, all evidence that Jack Smith collected about Trump's attempt to steal the election would be added to the case. That's all evidence that the BBC didn't engage in defamation, because their representation of his actions are entirely based on reality, even if they edited the video. It didn't impact Trump's reputation, because that's all on him.
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 20:55 other posts of Guess_Who 

By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 20:57 other posts of Guess_Who 
She lied about everthing.. We don't want her anymore ... You believe in what ever her lying bitch statements? Bring her to you and just shut the fuck up already.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Obviously people don't believe your shit, because they just voted her in again
with roughly 76.5% of the total vote share.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 00:42 other posts of Guess_Who 
Good for them. Its good for Florida also therefore its good for me... People that voted for communists are going to have to move to florida which is constitution rule.. We have state sovereignty and solidarity.. I own a home down here.. I bought the house in 2019.. Can you imagine how much it is worth down here.. People are stupid and ignorant,,,, just like you up there.. Population here is like Israel where they are safe just as much. My house is double the value, when the whole country comes down here I'll hold the bag.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 12:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You just went from making up lies about Ilhan Omar to making up lies about the US Constitution. There is absolutely no 'constitutional rule' forcing people to move based on their vote.

Also, your math on Florida doesn't hold up. The 2026 midterm results show that the Republican governor only won Florida with a razor-thin 50.02% against 48.71% for the Democrat. Half the state voted against your nonsense.

By the way, you might want to look up what 'holding the bag' actually means.
It means being left stuck with a failure or a massive loss while everyone else gets away. If you're waiting for the whole country to move to Florida so you can 'hold the bag,' you are accidentally predicting your own financial ruin.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:11 other posts of Guess_Who 
no lies asshole..You fucking idiot... You know nothing about nothing.. You're just garbage.. Time to shut the fuck up again.
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Nov,26 15:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your Republicans in Florida won with the slightest margins from 2 Democrats who had almost NO money for their campaigns, while the GOP spent tens of millions of dollars in media buys, ground operations, and digital advertising
to protect their incumbents.
Even in your beloved Florida, Democrats would have won, with just a fair game.
By phart at 07,Nov,26 21:25 other posts of phart 
No, overcoming ignorance is very exspensive
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 14:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Several progressives did it on 1/10th of the money of their opposition.

However, Angie Nixon lost, because the national Democratic party’s investment in Florida stood at effectively $0 in major media spending, compared to the tens of millions of dollars national groups poured into
other target Senate seats, such as Texas.

The only reason that she got this close, is because people supported her.
It's a damn shame that the national Democrats didn't support those people.






By phart at 06,Nov,26 20:36 other posts of phart 
Well, you have to look at the voter base that put her there, a bunch of folks that got here questionably and are non productive bums on society. Doesn't the child care lering center fraud scandal the smolie towel heads were doing mean anything?



By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 22:48 other posts of Guess_Who 
You just totally fucking lie about everything don't you..
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How useless are you then, for being unable to present ANY verifiable fact
that clearly contradicts my claims. That should be EASY.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 00:44 other posts of Guess_Who 
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 12:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
She's laughing now, dumbass!


By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 00:46 other posts of Guess_Who 
I don't have to.. You're just as stupid as you are it would make no sense to you.. Just shut the fuck up all ready and find out for yourself..

I am not here to serve you.. Get your bitch to do that.. I'm here for reasons you do not understand... You're lucky that CAT fucktard hid your gifts.. I can just start it all again.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 12:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The oldest sign of a liar is their refusal to justify their claims. A person telling the truth welcomes evidence because facts back them up. A liar throws a tantrum, demands blind trust, and claims they 'don't have to show proof', because they know their lies cannot survive inspection. Your anger and refusal to provide facts is your confession.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:12 other posts of Guess_Who 
You're the liar.. Nothing but just a total dickhead with donkey turds on it.
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Nov,26 15:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Eight-year-old bullies on the playground have better comebacks than you.
By Guess_Who at 06,Nov,26 16:33 other posts of Guess_Who 
Who cares. I'm not caring about your shenanigans. You're just a total waste of time and oxygen.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 09:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I say things with substance. You don’t.
By Guess_Who at 07,Nov,26 19:52 other posts of Guess_Who 
what makes me care anything at all about your fucking substance
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 13:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Put you OWN substance against it. Ever heard the term "free speech"?
By Guess_Who at 09,Nov,26 22:51 other posts of Guess_Who 
There is nothing to be done. You are useless to me and I owe you nothing..

You're lack of intelligence and ignorance is mare than enough determining I want nothing to do with you.

Is Zuid-Holland as stupid as you are? Free speech has nothing to do with it. But my right to respond to your rubbish has come to an end.. Get over it already.













By phart at 02,Nov,26 16:29 other posts of phart 
He claims to be gay in his writings, so eh maybe not,probably just a marriage for paper work.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 10:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Present that paperwork then.
By phart at 03,Nov,26 23:24 other posts of phart 
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Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, the ex-husband (and subject of longstanding rumors regarding his relationship) to Representative Ilhan Omar, identified himself as a gay man in an academic paper titled "Out in the Field: Notes on Researching Queer Violence in Kenya"


Overview of the Paper

• Title: Out in the Field: Notes on Researching Queer Violence in Kenya
• Author: Ahmed Nur Said Elmi (a doctoral researcher at the University of Bristol)
• Publication Date: August 27, 2026
• Publication: TOR: The Open Review for the Social Sciences (Volume 11, pages 33–40)

Core Themes and Content

• Focus: The essay reflects on the ethical, emotional, and methodological complexities of conducting ethnographic research on queerphobic violence and the criminalization of homosexuality across urban centres in Kenya (drawing on nine months of fieldwork).
• Positionality & Identity: Elmi writes from a reflexive standpoint, describing his identity as a "gay man of the East African diaspora" and noting that his fieldwork in a context where queerness is criminalized "was never neutral".
• Epistemology: The paper critiques standard institutional research ethics, arguing that studying violence in hostile environments requires viewing the field as a relational, embodied space shaped by power dynamics, vulnerability, emotional labor, and ongoing community accountability.
• Broader Context: The publication gained public and political attention in late October 2026 due to Elmi's identity disclosures and his past marriage to U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar amid ongoing political and federal scrutiny regarding their background.
Read the full essay via the University of Bristol Research Information Portal or view the text on ResearchGate.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There is NO evidence that Ilhan Omar's father is associated with this academic publication.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 00:47 other posts of Guess_Who 
Yes evidence
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 12:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The oldest sign of a liar is their refusal to justify their claims.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:13 other posts of Guess_Who 
The OLDEST sign of an asshole is your true appearance.



By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:13 other posts of Guess_Who 
Such a fucking moron.






By leopoldij at 02,Nov,26 12:50 other posts of leopoldij 
Why bother to vote when the elections are totally fraudulent? Makes no sense.
By Guess_Who at 02,Nov,26 15:13 other posts of Guess_Who 
Of course.. all double digit IQs to them makes no sense.
By leopoldij at 02,Nov,26 18:28 other posts of leopoldij 
What do you mean? Apologies, but I don't understand what IQ you're talking about
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 20:59 other posts of Guess_Who 
It's because your a fucking moron that's why. We don't want her anymore.. You don't like it? Take her into your country and shut the fuck up already

By leopoldij at 03,Nov,26 22:26 other posts of leopoldij 
Who the fuck is she?? Don't know her.
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 22:47 other posts of Guess_Who 
Your sister , right?
By leopoldij at 03,Nov,26 23:35 other posts of leopoldij 
I have no sister
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 18:13 other posts of Guess_Who 
LIAR
By leopoldij at 05,Nov,26 19:59 other posts of leopoldij 
Now that you said it, I remember. I have a sister and she's a hooker. It's the only job she's had all along. Everyone has fucked her.
By Guess_Who at 05,Nov,26 23:14 other posts of Guess_Who 
I'll bet..














By phart at 09,Nov,26 20:20 other posts of phart 
There are differences in the democrat brain and the republican brain.

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"A significant amount of research also suggests that people who vote liberal or conservative have different psychological characteristics. Conservatives tend to have stronger attitudes toward threat and conflict, while liberals tend to be more likely to seek out novelty and uncertainty. "

In other words, dems dont mind putting us at risk!


By phart at 07,Nov,26 19:27 other posts of phart 
The top 1% made it possible to get anything delivered right to your door within a day.
The lower 30% will steal it off your porch

Approximately 70 million to 78 million Americans—or about one in every three adults (roughly 33%)—have a criminal or arrest record

Now, which 1 do you think the democrats want to continue to succeed?
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 14:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That top 1% doesn't NEED any help to succeed. They help themselves enough.
You are part of that lower 30%. YOU need help, not the 1%.

Yes, it's very easy to become branded as a criminal in your country.
Run into a cop who had a bad night sleep, your life is crewed, or ended on the spot.

Listen; I like that anything I want can be delivered to my door in a day. Does this make the world a better place? Easier yes, better not much. It's just supporting the mindless wasteful consumerism that you have spoken out against. People filling the gap in their heart with cheap crap made in China. You don't like that at all, until you can praise the 1% for it.

They have destroyed 'mom and pop' shops intentionally, so they could be monopolies,
and then they raised the prices when we were all fully dependent on them.

The 1% designed a system so convenient that we want to defend it, just like you are doing now. It is however based on exploitation.
From the warehouse workers to the truck drivers and delivery people, no one in that chain is making any decent money anymore, except the 1%. That is why I call it exploitation.
We are all supporting them to extract more from their employees, which turns out is eventually harming ourselves. We are all turning into their serfs, to support their wealth.

So why do you want that handful of people hoarding the profits to succeed
over the millions of hard-working people actually keeping the country alive?

You are indoctrinated to think this is capitalism, but it's not, it's corporatism.
They will continue until they own everything and we own nothing.
Instead of just buying the government, they will BE the government.
Tell me the difference between that and what was called 'communism' by Stalin,
Mao Zedong and the Kim family?
By phart at 09,Nov,26 16:00 other posts of phart 
I would rather deal with mom and pop stores and have when I can .But when their prices put things out of my reach, I can't help it, i have to go the cheaper route.
Tools are a prime example. I could buy 1 wrench of each size over time from the Snap on tool truck and owe him my soul and help keep up a mom and pop business. OR I can go buy 2 full sets of wrenches that test and work in some ways BETTER for the same price as 1 of his wrenches.

You know where I do most of my shopping? Good will, Christin ministry stores and the like. I can support a good cause,get a good deal on name brand stuff and save money all at the same time. Consumerism as you call but on a budget,Yea I want a pair of pants without holes in the pockets.but damned if I am paying 50 bucks for them when I get 5 pairs for 3 bucks a pair! of the SAME BRAND!
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 17:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Of course mom-and-pop stores can’t compete on price; the game is completely rigged.

Small businesses pay full taxes and get hammered if they violate a single rule. Meanwhile, mega-corporations get billions in subsidies and tax breaks, cities literally pay them to set up shop under the guise of "creating jobs". However, those jobs are low-paying, high-stress, and built on exploitation.

Corporations squeeze suppliers, destroy the environment, and walk away clean, because they buy off politicians with bribes and threats.

I’m not attacking you for choosing the cheaper route to protect your wallet. I get it,
you have to survive. I am attacking you for praising and defending the very machine
that forces you into that corner.


By phart at 09,Nov,26 16:06 other posts of phart 
I am not a part of that lower 30% either,i am not a thief! I am part of the 69% that tried or trys to work and EARN my way thru life the best I can. please don't accuse me of being a thief.Thanks.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 17:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What 30% of Americans doesn't try to work and EARN their way thru life.
I think that you are damn disrespectful to your fellow Americans.
By phart at 09,Nov,26 20:19 other posts of phart 
That is why I copied and pasted that section, 33% of the american people are criminals.

"Approximately 70 million to 78 million Americans—or about one in every three adults (roughly 33%)—have a criminal or arrest record"

As for respecting criminals that won't rehab, no,I don't. But I don't mind saying I do have some respect for the other 70%.






By phart at 07,Nov,26 21:45 other posts of phart 
Hey Ananans, how's this for 1 month? you keep saying no jobs were made by Trumps economy, well dispute this.


The U.S. economy added 165,000 nonfarm payroll jobs in October 2026, beating economists' expectations of roughly 65,000.

Key Highlights from the October 2026 Jobs Report

• Unemployment Rate: Dropped slightly to 4.1% from 4.2% in September.
• Private Payrolls: Increased by 159,000 jobs.
• Revisions: August and September payroll numbers were revised upward by a combined 84,000 jobs (August updated to 186,000 and September to 60,000).
• Wages: Average hourly earnings rose 0.4% for the month and 3.1% compared to a year earlie
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 10:00 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I didn't say "NO jobs". Disputing below.

Chronological order:

Harry S. Truman (D): +11.12 million total, ~116,000 average/month
Dwight D. Eisenhower (R): +3.53 million total, ~37,000 average/month
John F. Kennedy (D): +3.75 million total, ~110,000 average/month
Lyndon B. Johnson (D): +12.12 million total, ~199,000 average/month
Richard Nixon (R): +9.37 million total, ~140,000 average/month
Gerald Ford (R): +1.95 million total, ~67,000 average/month
Jimmy Carter (D): +10.34 million total, ~215,000 average/month
Ronald Reagan (R): +16.51 million total, ~172,000 average/month
George H.W. Bush (R): +2.62 million total, ~55,000 average/month
Bill Clinton (D): +22.94 million total, ~239,000 average/month
George W. Bush (R): +1.35 million total, ~14,000 average/month
Barack Obama (D): +11.60 million total, ~60.400 average/month
Donald Trump (1st term) (R): -2.67 million total, -56,000 average/month
Joe Biden (D): +16.25 million total, ~338,000 average/month
Donald Trump (2nd term) (R): +728,000 total (ongoing), ~34.600 average/month


Ranked from most to least jobs per month:

Joe Biden (D): +16.25 million total, ~338,500 average/month
Bill Clinton (D): +22.94 million total, ~239,000 average/month
Jimmy Carter (D): +10.34 million total, ~215,000 average/month
Lyndon B. Johnson (D): +12.12 million total, ~195,000 average/month
Ronald Reagan (R): +16.51 million total, ~172,000 average/month
Richard Nixon (R): +9.37 million total, ~140,000 average/month
Barack Obama (D): +11.60 million total, ~121,000 average/month
Harry S. Truman (D): +11.12 million total, ~116,000 average/month
John F. Kennedy (D): +3.75 million total, ~110,000 average/month
Gerald Ford (R): +1.95 million total, ~67,000 average/month
Donald Trump (2nd term) (R): +1.38 million total (ongoing), ~62,500 average/month
George H.W. Bush (R): +2.62 million total, ~55,000 average/month
Dwight D. Eisenhower (R): +3.53 million total, ~37,000 average/month
George W. Bush (R): +1.35 million total, ~14,000 average/month
Donald Trump (1st term) (R): -2.67 million total, -56,000 average/month (MINUS)


The 'recent' pattern:

Bill Clinton (D): ~239,000 average/month - UP
George W. Bush (R): ~14,000 average/month - DOWN
Barack Obama (D): ~60.400 average/month - UP
Donald Trump (1st term) (R): -56,000 average/month - DOWN
Joe Biden (D): ~338,000 average/month - WAY UP
Donald Trump (2nd term) (R): ~62,500 average/month - DOWN


Here is Trump's 2nd term history:

January 2025: +115,000 jobs
February 2025: +98,000 jobs
March 2025: +42,000 jobs
April 2025: +65,000 jobs
May 2025: -25,000 jobs
June 2025: +74,000 jobs
July 2025: +12,000 jobs
August 2025: +55,000 jobs
September 2025: +38,000 jobs
October 2025: No data (Government shutdown)
November 2025: +60,000 jobs
December 2025: +50,000 jobs
January 2026: +78,000 jobs
February 2026: +92,000 jobs
March 2026: +54,000 jobs
April 2026: -12,000 jobs
May 2026: +62,000 jobs
June 2026: +112,000 jobs
July 2026: -5,000 jobs
August 2026: +186,000 jobs (Fully revised upward)
September 2026: +60,000 jobs (Fully revised upward)
October 2026: +165,000 jobs (Latest report)


"beating economists' expectations of roughly 65,000."
It's telling that economists only expected 65,000 jobs, which shows how low the confidence in his economic direction actually was. Beating a historically low bar
is more about a temporary stroke of luck than solid policy.

His average still stands. Stop celebrating outliers.


At the end of the day, I care about the general well-being of working-class people,
not just abstract economic indexes or job numbers. True well-being is measured by whether a working family can actually afford a roof over their heads, healthy food,
sending their kids to good schools, having childcare that doesn’t cost more than
a second job brings in, and having a healthcare system where bad luck or getting sick doesn't instantly ruin a hard-working family financially. If a society adds millions of jobs,
but people still can't afford these basic necessities, the system is failing.

People didn't feel that enough when Biden was president. Trump promising to fix everything won him the election. Then voters found out that he fucks them over
like no president before, which made them reconsider trusting a pathological liar.
By phart at 09,Nov,26 15:55 other posts of phart 
Bidens job numbers may have been skewed by the fact that covid affected jobs.




By phart at 08,Nov,26 20:15 other posts of phart 
You know, i got to thinking, poor old Osama bin laden is out there somewhere ,wondering where his 72 virgins are as he is surrounded by goats, and he also thinking, "you know, had I just went to America and promised free grocerys, they would have voted me into their congress and I could have still be alive!"
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,26 10:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Rather than focusing on consequences after death,
I prefer to focus on consequences in life.



By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 10:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Mississippi has probably elected a DEMOCRAT,
because of how tone-deaf their senator Cindy Hyde-Smith is.

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"If you cannot afford beef, just pick another protein"

That's literally what MAGA accuses Democrats of.

Mississippi voted for a BLACK DEMOCRAT for that. Mississippi!
I repeat; MISSISSIPPI!!!!

By kebmo at 07,Nov,26 12:00 other posts of kebmo 
Texas, Kansas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Idaho, and on and on and on goes. I think MAGA hit a wall.
--------------------------------------- added after 7 minutes

And… it was proven that you cannot buy an election! Yeah, you Elon!
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 13:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure they can buy elections. If it wasn't for all that money buying propaganda,
at best 5% of voters would have voted for Republicans.

They just fucked-up the lives of people a little too much this time.
Don't hold your breath next time. People have the memory of goldfish.
By phart at 07,Nov,26 14:21 other posts of phart 
Well, Trump Won 2024 because people got tired of the revenge bullshit and NO progress made on ANY front for America during biden, So Trump won again.
The same morons ,like you said have the memory of a gold fish, will then turn and vote gop again in 2028 or 2030 because they will be tired of the infighting of the dems and the LACK OF PROGRESS once again that dems have a track record for. a
By CAT52! at 07,Nov,26 17:31 other posts of CAT52! 
Guess what, Phart, we got tired of the bullshit, the grift, the bullying, and the broken promises. The people chose. You guys are out and will be in 2028.
By phart at 07,Nov,26 18:55 other posts of phart 
and you guys will be out the next election because you folks won't get your shit together either. that's how bidens replacement the Cackler, lost







By phart at 06,Nov,26 22:17 other posts of phart 
these threads get so long I can't find where all the repubs are crooks and needed voted out. Hell, this dem just got voted back in and is already in JAIL>
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By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 09:17 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your point: Accountability for Democrats, not for Republicans.
By phart at 07,Nov,26 14:18 other posts of phart 
What part of having accountability for BOTH would you have a issue with?




By phart at 06,Nov,26 12:16 other posts of phart 
What cost more than gas at 4 dollars a gallon?

Paying for college loans I never took out,
paying for food for illegal immigrants,
paying for health care for illegals,
paying for bridges and buildings in country's that hate us, foreign aid,
Paying to protect other countries that hate me,
By CAT52! at 06,Nov,26 13:14 other posts of CAT52! 
Regular people need food too and the price is so high we need to work two jobs
Health care is there for everyone. Foreign aid is for protection.
By phart at 06,Nov,26 20:40 other posts of phart 
protection from what?
Why do people that do nothing deserve the same as those that do as far as healthcare? You would waste a donated heart on a homeless person instead of a ceo that provides jobs wouldn't you? You and I are regular people, we both worked jobs as long as we were able, so yes, we need and deserve food ,health care our employers provided and so on , but, the others that do nothing, no,
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 09:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The world going to shit is of your concern too.
Especially, because your country is largely responsible for it.





By phart at 06,Nov,26 12:24 other posts of phart 
What is really sad about the election is dems are so afraid of AI replacing their voters they want to control it to much.
It will stifle our technology and allow other countries to pass us in high tech fields such as robotics. We should not be restricted in any way when it comes to research on Ai or other tech that could improve human life.
By CAT52! at 06,Nov,26 13:11 other posts of CAT52! 
It’s not AI. It’s AI super data centers. Get it right
By phart at 06,Nov,26 20:48 other posts of phart 
I won't disagree their issue is ALSO to do with the data centers but they want to stifle AI research as well. Read and study the issue. they are afraid they will become to "smart". Which couldn't happen fast enough as organic intelligence is rotting away here in the USA.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,26 09:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's not about replacing voters, it's about replacing JOBS.
The immediate problem of AI is data-centers turning people's drinking-water into sewage, multiplying people's power-bill, and killing people with noise pollution.
No research should destroy people's lives.

But true, there is also a risk to voters, because at some point there is no way
you can hold fair elections anymore; when AI can hack everything.





By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 15:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Palm Beach Jet Crash: How Could a Learjet 60 with a Flawless Cruise Record Drop Like a Bomb?

Facts That Support the Suspicion that Trump's air defense is responsible:

• Extreme Proximity and Timing: The Learjet 60 crashed a mere 7 to 9 miles from Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s private residence. The impact occurred approximately one hour after Trump departed the immediate area aboard Air Force One.

• Unprecedented Military Activation: In the weeks directly leading up to the crash, the Secret Service and the Pentagon had officially deployed advanced short-range air defense systems and electronic countermeasures around the Mar-a-Lago perimeter to counter drone threats.

• Anomaly in Aircraft Safety Record: Proponents of this theory point out that in the entire operational history of the Learjet 60, no aircraft of this model has ever suffered a spontaneous, catastrophic mid-flight structural failure or an unrecoverable vertical plunge while cruising at 35,000 feet under normal operations.

• Abrupt and Violent Flight Path: The aircraft experienced an immediate, catastrophic departure from controlled flight, transitioning instantly into a near-vertical dive with terminal descent rates accelerating from 10,000 to over 22,000 feet per minute.

• Witness and Authority Descriptions: First-hand eyewitnesses and official state updates described the aircraft's final trajectory as looking "like a missile going down," matches the visual profile of a kinetic intercept or total control surface locking.

• Midair Disintegration: Physical debris was scattered across a wide area before the main impact, with initial findings confirming the airframe began breaking apart at high altitude, a characteristic shared with catastrophic external impacts or sudden explosive decompression.

Tell me why ALL of the news outlets are dismissing this as conspiracy theories, while this list of hard, verified facts points to a scenario that is mathematically and physically far too unlikely to be a simple stroke of bad luck.

So here is a challenge to you: provide me with a list of verifiable facts, just like mine,
for any one of the things that you believe the governments and media are lying about.

Pick any theory you firmly believe in, and I disagree with, and give me at least four hard, undisputed, globally documented physical facts that directly connect the dots. No hearsay, no 'someone said on a podcast,' and no screenshots of anonymous social media posts. Just pure, verifiable anomalies. I bet that you cannot find anything close to what I just provided on this 'accident'. That means that you should not believe that this jet just dropped out of the sky.

Your government just murdered nine innocent people, just to be on the safe side,
and protect your corrupt, criminal, dying, demented, treasonous, ped0phile president.
By phart at 03,Nov,26 19:12 other posts of phart 
OK, I won't argue right off the bat as I havn't read alot about it YET. BUT what you are explaining is about same as the Pennsylvania crash on 9-11, if you believe the passengers crashed that plane I have a bridge to sell you in san fransico. But You have no trouble believing that story do you? a few hero's willing to kill all the passengers in a crash instead trying to take over the plane and LAND IT?? Try to convince me it wasn't a fighter jet that shot it down.
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I finally was able to get the video to go frame by frame and the plane literally is there and then poof,completely out of sight before the fire ball. goes nose down right beside a car,from what I understand,only 1 person on the ground was injured and I am betting it was the person in that white car that was right near where the nose went in, car mighta been moving,hopefully it was.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There were no radio communications about hijackers.
That would be the absolute first thing that a pilot would report.
It's very simple; if we see a cover up on this incident,
you can bet a lot of money on your regime being involved in it.


By phart at 03,Nov,26 23:46 other posts of phart 
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Here is a actual video of the crash, don't blink,you will miss it, 9 people,gone,flash,gone.
I seriously doubt the protective systems for Trump would have still be active after a hour of his departure. I was out of town near a airport when obama was brought in for his vacation and they cut the power to the camp ground for about 30 minutes until he was out of the plane and on the road, all was back to normal in short order.
A friend that is a pilot told me this was a case of a bumpy ride in turbulance was probably the better choice. he had faced it a few times himself in prop planes. just ride the bumps.

By phart at 04,Nov,26 03:15 other posts of phart 
The second video,a Daily Mail video,plays a short clip of the young gals audio,where she is saying we are going down 20,000 feet a minute. what audio has been avaliable to hear, nothing has been said about "we have been struck by something" or what hit us? or anything like that you would expect from a pilot who's plane got hit by a missle or something

I can't put the video links in this post as it makes it to long and it goes off page
By Cody8789 at 04,Nov,26 19:04 other posts of Cody8789 
It’s very simple, the tail wing broke off and went into a nose dive without recovery
By phart at 04,Nov,26 21:03 other posts of phart 
Ok, But let me ask a question, can't the engines be reversed? it doesn't appear ANYTHING was done to slow that plane down,it's like it's throttle was hung wide open like the plane that crashed near me back in the 80's.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Nov,26 22:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Everything makes it appear like a complete systems failure.
That doesn't just happen. There is also talk about Directed-Energy Weapons.
By Cody8789 at 05,Nov,26 05:23 other posts of Cody8789 
Throwing the engines in reverse at that speed would rip them off the tail assembly, I also have seen stationary pictures of the jet b4 it hit the ground and there was no wing left, they were ripped off except the beem of the wings, I have two friends that are air traffic controllers that I bowl with and they told me at that speed there is no recovery. The dive was in excess of 800 knots. I feel sorry for the beautiful people that were on the plane that lost there lives especially those two children.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 17:19 other posts of phart 
Well,I was curious ,thanks for clearing that up.
it was difficult to get the video down to frame by frame to actually see the plane before it hit,so fast 920 mph. wow

A friend was in the air force stationed in africa and part of his job was to go to crash sights in the desert to recover dead pilots, i think he said 30 feet was how deep 1 man was?
A man in his seat that the parachute didn't go off went down 10 feet into the sand.


By phart at 05,Nov,26 17:20 other posts of phart 
So this 1 crashed in florida as well, Trumps fault again?
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By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 17:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, none of the factors that made the first incident curious are repeated here.
This is a completely different case:
• Location: The crash happened in New Smyrna Beach, over 160 miles north of
Mar-a-Lago, completely outside any security zones.
• Aircraft Type: Unlike the Learjet 60, this was a small, single-engine light aircraft, which carries a much different safety profile. These crash all the time.
• Flight Profile: It wasn't a mid-air disintegration from 35,000 feet, but a low-altitude crash near a local airport where the fuselage remained largely intact, which occurs significantly more often.

Florida is one of the busiest states for private aviation; linking two entirely different aircraft types hundreds of miles apart is just a coincidence, not a pattern.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 19:55 other posts of phart 
just checking,there may be hope for you yet! You applied common sense!
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Nov,26 21:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I understand that coincidences exist and happen all the time.
But the Palm Beach Jet Crash is a perfect example of multiple incredibly low chances occurring simultaneously. That is not the case in your example.

Did you see the video in the 'YouTube can be educational' topic, about Christians saying that evolution is mathematically impossible? That's based on a misunderstanding of chances and thinking that the process of evolution is dependent on incredibly unlikely chances. When I say that the Palm Beach Jet Crash has a mathematically very unlikely possibility, that's NOT a misunderstanding of chances. It really needs to be calculated by multiplying several very small chances, resulting in a highly unlikely occurrence:

Total Probability = P(Unique Crash Mode) Ч P(Active SHORAD) Ч P(Trump's Presence) Ч P(Exact Coordinates in the US)

Using standard historical aviation and logistical data, we can estimate the four individual probabilities to see how they multiply.

1. P(Unique Crash Mode) — The Mechanical Failure
* The Baseline: Over the last two decades, there have been roughly 20 million to 30 million global business jet flights per year. Fatal accidents occurring during the cruise phase (at 35,000+ feet) account for less than 5% of all accidents.
* The Model: The Learjet 60 had flown for decades without ever suffering a spontaneous high-altitude structural failure or unrecoverable vertical plunge while cruising under normal operations.
* Estimation: The odds of an aircraft experiencing a catastrophic high-altitude stall/structural event of this magnitude on any given flight is roughly 1 in 10,000,000 (10^-7).

2. P(Active SHORAD) — The Military Variable
* The Baseline: Short-Range Air Defense (SHORAD) systems like the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger are almost exclusively deployed in active war zones or permanently around major national command centers (like Washington, D.C.).
* The Deployment: Deploying these active systems to a temporary civilian residence due to a specific drone threat environment is an incredibly rare event. If we assume such highly advanced systems are active at Mar-a-Lago for perhaps a cumulative total of 4 weeks (28 days) out of a multi-year period:
* Estimation: The probability that these systems were active on any random day is roughly 28 days out of 10 years, which is about 1 in 130 (7.6 x 10^-3).

3. P(Trump's Presence / Air Force One Window) — The Timing Window
* The Baseline: Official tracking shows Donald Trump spends roughly 65 days per year at Mar-a-Lago during the social season.
* Calculation: 65 days of presence divided by 365 days in a year means he is physically there ~17.8% of the time
* Order of Magnitude Estimation: 1 in 5.6 (1.78 * 10^-1)

4. P(Exact Coordinates in the US) — The Macro-Location
* The Baseline: Calculation by the ratio of flight hours spent inside that specific 7-mile circle compared to all other US flight hours.
* With roughly 3,300 local flight hours out of 20,000,000 total national flight hours per year, this represents the exact physical exposure within the macro-location of the US.
* Estimated as 1 in 6,000 (1.67 * 10^-4)

THE GRAND TOTAL (Multiplying the Chances)
When we run these order-of-magnitude estimations through the formula:

Total Probability = P(Unique Crash Mode) x P(Active SHORAD) x P(Trump's Presence) x P(Exact Coordinates in the US)
Total Probability = (10^-7) x (7.6 x 10^-3) x (1.78 * 10^-1) x (1.67 * 10^-4)

The resulting combined probability is approximately 1 in 4.42 * 10^13
1 in 44.2 trillion YEARS. The universe has existed for 13.787 billion years now.

CONCLUSION
This astronomical number is exactly why this case is mathematically almost impossible. This is not a misunderstanding of chances. When a coin lands on heads 50 times in a row, a statistician doesn't say "well, coincidences happen". They immediately check if the coin is rigged.

Can you fault that calculation?
By phart at 05,Nov,26 22:47 other posts of phart 
Well, have you also factored in that the 20 year old gal helping fly the plane had been fussed at about the same thing a few months prior?
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By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Nov,26 13:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So what is the problem, the plane or the young female pilot?
It was the same plane, but in both cases the young female pilot was NOT flying. She is only the co-pilot, responsible for confirmation and communication with the tower. The actual flight controls are operated by the pilot. He decides to change height and do that, not her.
Changing height to avoid icing and turbulence is not out of the ordinary. It does show that the weather was particularly bad, but the weather is bad more often and still no Learjet 60 has ever dropped out of the sky like that one.












By kebmo at 05,Nov,26 16:11 other posts of kebmo 
phart why do you think the American voters decided on such a big change?
By phart at 05,Nov,26 16:47 other posts of phart 
ignorance, impatience with the slower, deeper rebuilding of our nation by Trump.YOu have to make sure America is safe from terrorist and have secure borders and fair hiring practices and so on to build a sound nation. the young people are just wanting instant results like cheap gas and coffee and don't look beyond their stuck up noses enough to see the future. There are now at least 8 muslims going to be in washington. Their religion tells them to kill gay men,their religion tells them to cover womens heads in public and not to educate them and on top of that, their book also tells them it is ok to USE the infidals to their own advantage. As in robbing and stealing from them is not a sin, etc. What the hell the younger generations see good about that in the USA I don't know. at least I am going on 60 years old,by the time it gets mainstream I may not have to witness the shit
By kebmo at 05,Nov,26 16:58 other posts of kebmo 
More than half of your answer was a rant about how and why you hate Muslims.

Maybe there was such a big change in US politics because people are sick of the hatred, which is coming from the top. The lack of compassion by many in the Republican party may have contributed to the big change.
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Trickle down hatred.
By phart at 05,Nov,26 17:10 other posts of phart 
Oh, Well, maybe you need to watch this? trickle down hatred eh?
THIS video depicts REAL LACK OF COMPASSION Take time to listen to what the interviewed man behind the disguises says, the people watching were excited about watching
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And Americans voted for people that believe in this.
Not hatred my friend, it is trying to warn people of the impending danger they are luring in.a wolf in sheeps clothing, tells you want to hear to get your vote then off the roof you go.
By kebmo at 05,Nov,26 20:57 other posts of kebmo 
I’m not sure why you feel that all Muslims would be OK with throwing gay people off buildings.

There was a man arrested for murder in the city I live in last week. He had red hair… beware of the redhead. It sure sounds simplistic, doesn’t it? One redheaded man murdered someone, therefore you can extrapolate from that that all redheaded men want to murder people?
By phart at 05,Nov,26 22:51 other posts of phart 
no but to use your fancy word there for a minute, I can extrapolate muslims don't mind killing gays from text like this google search result.

1. Traditional Jurisprudence and State Laws

In classical Islamic law (Sharia), same-sex sexual acts are considered a major sin. Major historical schools of Islamic jurisprudence prescribe severe punishments for these acts, which in some interpretations include the death penalty under specific, strict evidentiary rules.
• The Death Penalty: Roughly 10 to 11 Muslim-majority countries—including Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mauritania, and Yemen—maintain laws where consensual same-sex relations can formally carry the death penalty. In practice, actual state executions are rare in some of these nations due to high burdens of proof, though countries like Iran have actively carried out death sentences.
• Criminalization: In many other Muslim-majority nations, homosexuality is illegal and punishable by prison time, floggings, or fines, rather than death. A few Muslim-majority countries, such as Turkey and Jordan, do not legally criminalize homosexuality
By kebmo at 05,Nov,26 23:50 other posts of kebmo 
Maybe that’s why they moved to the U.S. and other Western countries.
By phart at 06,Nov,26 03:22 other posts of phart 
to spread their influence and beliefs?
By kebmo at 06,Nov,26 03:34 other posts of kebmo 
You know, the original question was: why did the American voters vote so overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party and then it turned into a conversation about how much you hate Muslims and how bad they are for your country.
Maybe all the Muslims that has come to the US are gay and have come to escape the tyranny.
You mentioned that eight Muslims are being sent to Washington by the electorate; eight out of 435 House members and 100 Senate members?
Oh my God, that’s 1.5% of them! Run for the hills.

How can you just let American citizens vote the way they want and put these
Legally entitled people into power? That is absolutely absurd! Somebody needs to read the American Constitution and get this straightened out.
By phart at 06,Nov,26 04:09 other posts of phart 
Yea,I went over the edge a bit.But I still feel like mostly it was ignorance.











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By +_dem[o]nXer_+ at 05,Nov,26 19:48 other posts of +_dem[o]nXer_+ 
The Trolls Survive. Apparently. Be like the tech-geek revenge not eating up it’s own worthlessness. Love you, pond scum.


By phart at 05,Nov,26 16:53 other posts of phart 
this is the shit that is going to washinton.
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"What should have been normal American election victory parties and statements were essentially mutilated by El-Sayed and Omar into Sharia-compliant displays of Muslim superiority."

What does the koran say about gays.
"• The Narrative: The Quran recounts the story of Prophet Lot and his people (often associated with Sodom) across multiple chapters, including Surah Al-A'raf (7:80–81) and Surah Al-Ankabut (29:28–29).
• The Condemnation: Lot rebukes his people for coming to men with lust instead of women, calling their behavior a shameful, excessive, and unprecedented transgression (israf"

Does that sound like something most folks here that hate Trump and Republicans would would agree with?


By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 18:51 other posts of leopoldij 
Do you realise that trump, with his behaviour, managed to ensure that, for the first time, a Muslim became mayor of new York and now, again because of his violent behaviour, ensured that a Muslim become senator for the first time in the US history?

Instead of creating his ideal all-white nation, he's installing Muslims in top positions.

He'll go down in history for the start of the Islamisation of the US, phart. The people you hate are there and that's thanks to your god's doings.
By phart at 04,Nov,26 21:02 other posts of phart 
no it's thanks to indoctrination of the democrat party.when all the folks of the alphabet community are gathered and killed by the muslims and the women are forced to hide their heads, only then will the democrats see how they have allowing themselves to be used.
By leopoldij at 05,Nov,26 00:44 other posts of leopoldij 
It's thanks to trump.




By phart at 04,Nov,26 23:44 other posts of phart 
if epstein was such a bad guy, why did it take YEARS for anything to come out about him? And WHY is the file so big? 1 or 2 deaths or r!pes associated with him should have made short work of his island and him. It is because to many big dogs have their name in the kitty to risk it. Trump is the preverbal bad guy for democrats right now, so gee his name is in the files. WELL WHO ELSE"S?? why Not release THEM ALL? And who is to say that epstien didn't rub shoulders with every one he could to cover his own ass and make it difficult to rat out on him?


By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 16:06 other posts of leopoldij 
What's going on?
Is trump ill?
He has accepted the result
of a fraudulent election
without any insurrection?

Why isn't he strong anymore?
Is he really so ill?

phart, is the god ill?
By phart at 04,Nov,26 17:57 other posts of phart 
No, he is just being a man. He is strong. His veto pen will make sure the dems have to work very hard to f things up.
By Guess_Who at 04,Nov,26 18:17 other posts of Guess_Who 
Now its fair game to finally destroy the IRGC. Just do it already. There is nothing to lose.

By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 18:46 other posts of leopoldij 
He's very weak.
Ill.
He's going to die.
A psychopathic narcissist can never accept defeat.

By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 18:47 other posts of leopoldij 
Why doesn't he organise another insurrection? Lots of people like you, would take their guns and their religious crosses and walk to the capitol and break in.

He should do it again.




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By Guess_Who at 04,Nov,26 18:23 other posts of Guess_Who 
My friend. You can't explain or prove anything to these narcissists of dumbass reasoning.

Here. Common reasoning says the best way to include our hearts is indeed simplicity. For example, a mature loving Jewish woman explained her nation's heart..

She said
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Our hands are not so soft/
But they can serve

Our bodies are not so white,,
but they remain strong

Our lips are not perfumed
But they speak the truth

Love is not art to us.
It is life to us.

We are not dressed in gold fine linen
Strength and honor are our clothing

Our homes are not the columns of Egypt
But our children play happily before them.

We can offer you little
But we offer all we have.

Nothing from some
Is more than Gold from others
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Florida has successfully defended from the attack of the idol worshippers For it remains intact. From wisdon and common reasoning we have created our own state wide solidarity and sovereignty. We have created an Israel that maintained faith in our creator. I promise you that whatever idol worshippers do it comes down to them, in time whetever goes around wiill always come around.



By CAT52! at 04,Nov,26 12:52 other posts of CAT52! 
Texas is blue and so is many more. Mr Clown, f..ck you.
By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 13:24 other posts of leopoldij 
Oh no, what's phart going to do now? At least he has guns to protect his freedom.
By phart at 04,Nov,26 13:41 other posts of phart 
damn straight.
We sure can't depend on the dems and muslims to protect it.
This video explains it well.
The truck is the democrat, the man waving trying to stop it is the republican.
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Even more accurate is this happened in colorado,where they are all high on pot-dope
By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 16:03 other posts of leopoldij 
I don't have time to watch videos.
Either explain it in simple English,
Or don't bother.

So, what now?
Are you going to use your gun
to restore the democracy that
was stolen by these elections?
By phart at 04,Nov,26 17:58 other posts of phart 
No,it will stay where it is until someone comes on my property trying to take what belongs to me or my life. Then they might get it, but it will be bullets first.






By phart at 04,Nov,26 17:56 other posts of phart 
The words that Ronald Reagon quoted ring true this morning.
“I lie me down and bleed awhile and then get up and fight again.


By kebmo at 04,Nov,26 14:50 other posts of kebmo 

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Prepare for Clarence Thomas and Samuel Elito to resign from the Supreme Court immediately so that Trump can replace them with younger people before the new Congress sits. They are 78 and 76 years old, respectively.


By leopoldij at 04,Nov,26 07:59 other posts of leopoldij 
Trump lost. Terrible.
phart, as we discussed, the elections were rigged.
What does this mean?
The court must declare the result invalid.
Otherwise, this result is not fair!


By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 00:50 other posts of Guess_Who 
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By golly we will throw her out..
By phart at 14,Oct,26 03:38 other posts of phart 
Yea, she wants Americas milk and honey but wants to complain and cause trouble for everyone else. Um, how does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot? I liked it when I read the Republicans are replying to questions about all this by quoting her words from a few years ago. No one is above the law. Well, that includes the person looking back at you in the mirror!
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 03:47 other posts of Guess_Who 
Boxes of evidence are carried out of that bitches house. She came here by marrying her brother and was head of a child trafficking network. Came in the country and she paid our hospitality of saying how she hates Israel and the United states.
How the democrats protect her is disgusting. They can all go to hell.
By phart at 14,Oct,26 04:20 other posts of phart 
You know,it just hit me, I wonder if the agents played around in her under ware drawers like the agents that Biden sent to Trumps house did to Melania's under clothes?

The democrat party for the most part is a terrorist group. They bring economic chaos and fear for 1's safety by trying to disarm us and they release criminals back onto the streets and so on, how intelligent people vote democrat and sleep at night is beyond me, vote independent if republicans don't have anyone you like.
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 15:14 other posts of Guess_Who 
Thank you for responding. The democratic party of the united states are just puppets for socialist globalism. The agenda the democrates are the same plans. Look at Europe which has been successful in destroying itself with Jihad terror for now is watching France in chaos. The euro has created monopoly. Look what's happening with Russia and Ukraine. Putin wants communism back. Do you see anything at all with europe demanding ceasefire? Have they helped Trump who was trying to protect the people of Europe? NO. They wouldn't let USA use landing strips. They are 2 faced bastards that the United States has had enough of. Trump's term still has 2 years left so they better be careful.

What is the agenda for the president now? Iran threatened them with nuclear attacks on Israel and United States. He felt they were going to try with Uraniam enrichment that was 60% getting closer to 90%.. Why do they protect Israel?..Judao-Christions love Israel too but the most important reason is that Israel's position is an outpost to relay important information and what the bastards are up to. Their proximity is crucial and thats why there is terror attacks and rockets fired at them.

Take a look at the full picture, zoom out.. They have taken over europe hurting people not caring if migrants murder people and cause terror.. This Globalist agenda needs to be taken down or this earth is going to be destroyed with nuclear war changings the planet's evolutionary pattern.

The people told them not to do this but they did this anyway. Look at the disgusting situations in San Diego, LA, SF, Portland, Seattle over bridges on I-5 signs death to Israel, Trump. They create terror to maintain power. They have no agends to help the american people. The only thing they they want is power and to steal money in maintaining power and forming a communist state of totality.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 16:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You claim Europe is 'destroyed,' yet European countries consistently rank highest globally for quality of life, healthcare, and safety.

You claim Europe didn't help Ukraine or support a ceasefire, when Europe has given tens of billions in military aid to Ukraine and European leaders have repeatedly negotiated for peace and hostages.

You claim Trump tried to 'protect the people of Europe,' but your clown is actively frustrating the resistance to Russia, by bowing to Putin's wishes and buying diesel from him. You are literally funding the adversary you claim to oppose.

We had the Iran nuclear threat completely covered and locked down. Your 90% panic is just repeating the most obvious Netanyahu lie ever invented. Trump is the one who unilaterally destroyed the deal, and now your clown expects us to jump into his stupid war just to distract people from his massive failures at home.

Trump has achieved absolutely NOTHING. Iran completely embarrassed him.
The very citizens he claimed he wanted to 'liberate', now hate the US even more.
His reckless approach left the world with zero guarantees that Iran won't or can't build nuclear weapons, while his 'genius' strategy only succeeded in pushing them straight into a tighter cooperation with China and Russia.

Trump acts like he can just demand a 'better deal' whenever he wants, but why
would they ever trust the paper the US signs again? The US showed the world it is completely untrustworthy and backward. Europe is now the only one left to clean up his mess and drive actual diplomacy.

Your claim that 'the Euro created a monopoly' makes no sense either, a currency
isn't a business, it's a medium of exchange. It is economically illiterate to call a
shared currency a monopoly.

You claim Putin wants 'communism' back, showing you don't even know what communism is, Putin is an ultra-capitalist oligarch, not a Soviet Marxist.

As for the 'communist totality' in the US, you are cheering for a leader who openly talks about being a dictator on day one, suspending parts of the Constitution, and using the military against American citizens. You are terrified of a fictional globalist boogeyman, while actively begging for actual authoritarian rule at home. Wake up!
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 20:22 other posts of Guess_Who 
Yes I do.. The vatican is nothing more than the spanish inquisition on steroids.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 20:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Vatican? Who is talking about the Vatican?

Anyway, since you have no counter arguments, that settles it.
By Guess_Who at 20,Oct,26 23:00 other posts of Guess_Who 
You know.. The vatican ... That for paying into maintaining Globalists Agenda's? The one group seeking domination of everywhere known as the Roman Empire..

This is perfect example of a Hemorrhoid on steroids.. Once you kill the Roman Empire on a hemorrhoid on steriods? You can kill the hemorrhoid but another one pops up. Never fails.. Is Italy in Europe? Yep/. Your continent has NO honor.. You're continent is killers.. Not to include America which is Europe in control of that ... That's because we have democrats like you and Kebmo right? Europe since been formed as accomplished..... absolutely nothing..

So why do you follow this agenda? It's because you stupid that's why... all good
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 10:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OMG, you're sounding like a mentally ill homeless guy.
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 21:01 other posts of Guess_Who 
A low double digit fucktard like yourself bringe out the antisemitism from with in you..









By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 14:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
She is not complaining and causing trouble, she is fighting for all Americans to have
a home they can afford, healthcare, education, childcare and food for children of poor parents. While Trump is closing hospitals in rural areas, she is defending them.


By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 14:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Ilhan Omar entered the United States legally as a refugee in 1995 when she was a child. She became a US citizen five years later, in 2000, at the age of 17 through derivative citizenship via her father's naturalization.

She did not marry ANYONE to "get into the country." Her legal entry and her US citizenship were both fully established long before her 2009 marriage to Ahmed Nur Said Elmi (the British citizen at the center of the rumors). She was already a US citizen for nine years at that time.

Trump is a fucking liar and a racist, and you are too, if you keep supporting this lie.
By phart at 14,Oct,26 14:29 other posts of phart 
Please explain how you are sitting way over there in the Netherregions and you know exactly how she got here,exactly how she got citizenship, but yet, our government is investigating wrong doing and judges signed papers making it ok to raid her home? Judges don't risk their jobs over a whim.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 14:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your country keeps records!!! Journalists can request access to them.
You being in the same country doesn't provide you ANY more information.

There was NO reason to raid her home.

The specific identity of the judge who signed off on the search warrant remains sealed / anonymous in public court documents. If he is protected by your regime, he faces no risk at all.

You're only creating precedent. Never cry about the rights of your representatives
in the future, when accountability is coming for them. I'll laugh my ass off.
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 15:29 other posts of Guess_Who 
Hey I love your page man.. You're a fucking dumb cunt..

We all know what she did asshole.. A federal judge in D.C. determined probable cause. He signed off on warrents...

Seriously.. what the fuck is the matter with you.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 15:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh, so the fact that he signed off on warrants is proof
that the judge determined probable cause.
THAT HOLDS TRUE IN EVERY CASE AGAINST TRUMP TOO, I ASSUME.
DUMBASS!!!
By phart at 14,Oct,26 18:04 other posts of phart 
Well, from what I just read, it has been found that omars staff had changed her birth date on the records after the election! So apparently there is some fraud going on. what were they hiding? and why are you afraid of justice being served if she is guilty? you want Trump down so bad you can taste it, but let 1 of his critics be shown to be crooked, and oh my it is a witch hunt!
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 20:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"The director of the Minnesota Legislative Reference Library noted that they originally listed 1981 simply because it was "widely available" on Wikipedia at the time, and they had published the date without official documentation."

Even IF she did become a citizen with false papers, the statute of limitations for that is 5 to 10 years. That means that a judge cannot legally issue a search warrant, because the only underlying crime is entirely expired.

If she did that, she could loose her citizenship, but that would be a civil lawsuit,
not a criminal lawsuit. A judge is ONLY allowed to issue a search warrant for that, if prosecutors can convince the judge that a live, unexpired crime is actively occurring. You only have presented a weak case for an expired crime from 26 years ago.

Even IF they have probable cause for this, the judge has still broken the law by issuing this search warrant. The official process is that the Department of Justice (DOJ) must file a civil lawsuit against her in a US District Court. The government faces an exceptionally high evidentiary bar. Under Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) § 340(a), they must present "clear, convincing, and unequivocal" evidence that citizenship was obtained illegally, or via the concealment of a material fact or willful misrepresentation. A federal judge, not an immigration agency, must evaluate the evidence and make the final ruling. If the judge rules in favor of the government, the individual's naturalization is revoked, usually reverting their status back to a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) or making them subject to deportation proceedings.

If the judge broke the law by signing the search warrant without a valid, unexpired criminal basis, the government would have severely damaged, if not completely destroyed, their criminal case against her. In an unlawful search, the "exclusionary rule" applies. Any evidence obtained during an illegal search, including the physical boxes of documents agents removed from her home on October 12, 2026, becomes completely inadmissible in court. If the government's primary evidence is thrown out, prosecutors usually have to drop the charges because they no longer have a case.


By phart at 14,Oct,26 18:51 other posts of phart 
OK, here you are sir, uh, refute this, a rebuttal? only registered users can see external links
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 20:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The judge’s political background is a cheap political talking point, not a legal defense. Under the Fourth Amendment, a search warrant is trash unless there is actual probable cause of a live, unexpired crime. Signing off as a registered Democrat means nothing.

For all we know, this Hillary Clinton donor is a corporate, centrist Democrat, a faction that despises progressives like Ilhan Omar just as much as any Republican does. Judges make errors and get misled by ambitious prosecutors all the time. Since the affidavit is sealed, this article has zero facts and relies entirely on political spin to ignore constitutional law.
By Guess_Who at 20,Oct,26 23:42 other posts of Guess_Who 
Mr. Fuckass.. The Judge is a democrat. Man you are just a total fuckup.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 12:12 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Always the same nonsense. Without evidence that the judge made the right or wrong call, their political affiliation says NOTHING to me. The fact that they are not being transparent is more evidence of meddling than the politics of a judge.

When I e.g. call Aileen Cannon partial to Trump, I have REASONS. You don't.
Her conduct was Highly irregular, Legally flawed and Obstructive.

Similarly, there is still no LEGAL justification provided for why that judge signed the search warrant. Trump's DOJ, Todd Blanche, is refusing to release the warrant application and supporting affidavit. I think that says enough.
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 21:03 other posts of Guess_Who 
Total fuckup and I stand by this










By phart at 18,Oct,26 21:52 other posts of phart 
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By phart at 20,Oct,26 23:27 other posts of phart 
Where is omar? no one has seen her since the raid. Her husband is mad because people are watching the house. to be a congresswoman I sure did expect to see a house in a nicer hood.
By Guess_Who at 20,Oct,26 23:42 other posts of Guess_Who 
my question is if they know this over 3 years ago why is she still here?
This is going to fizzle out then another demon will be created.
By phart at 21,Oct,26 02:47 other posts of phart 
NO telling, probably Trump is looking at it like, "what the hell?, let's deal with these crooks and expose them while I have a chance, let the people at least know what is going on">
By Guess_Who at 21,Oct,26 04:47 other posts of Guess_Who 
I don't think so but it is possible. The crooked judges Obama appointed put holds on it. But I believe his strategy is to hold onto the evidence and use it as an Ace Card.. Trump said that he had enough evidence to indict both Hillary Clinton and Obama should the democrats waste tax-payer money of millions of dollars should they retake the house..

By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 14:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OMG the projection is stunning; Trump is the biggest crook in your political history.
He is openly breaking the law and pissing on The Constitution.
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 21:04 other posts of Guess_Who 
Absolute total fuck up....Stay home... Don't go outside.. Everyone needs oxygen.. Stay home and just jerk off more than 100 times a day and just stay there.







By phart at 20,Oct,26 18:00 other posts of phart 
GOT HER!
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By Guess_Who at 26,Oct,26 20:36 other posts of Guess_Who 
There were rumors she fucked her brother and came here illegally to destroy america.. She did so much damage and more to come. Who is to blame?
By phart at 27,Oct,26 02:47 other posts of phart 
I forgot to post the link but there is also info out there about her sharing intelligence with somali government officials to help work against a area that had separated from the country. to. in other words, a traitor to her home land. Most of us knew when she got that job she was up to no good but damn, what will it take for dems to understand just how fucked up things are with her?
By Guess_Who at 03,Nov,26 04:57 other posts of Guess_Who 
She has no humility,,, She doesn't care if you hate her.. She is evil... And still a congress woman.. There is something wrong with this.. Well yes its her, but the path of this country how they are destroying everything is an absolute disgrace..

My idea is if your actions on a high platform abusing powers in overthrowing the constitution then you belong returning your country and one person needs charges of treason to commence... This tells me they are in on it with each other for power, money..
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 10:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
She is fighting for healthcare, education, housing and food programs,
and you call he 'evil'. She is the literal representation of ALTRUISM.
By phart at 03,Nov,26 19:16 other posts of phart 
That is her cover story provided by the democrat party. She doesn't give a fiddlers damn about those issues.

U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) has faced accusations and criticism of "treason" from political figures and critics over several specific controversies, though she has not been charged with treason by any law enforcement or judicial authority.

2024 Somaliland / Somalia Remarks

• The Allegations: In January 2024, a translated video clip of Rep. Omar speaking to Somali constituents in Minnesota circulated online. Critics claimed she stated she was in the U.S. Congress to protect Somali interests and that the U.S. administration would do what Somalians ask.
• The Reactions:
• In late 2024 and 2025, tech executive Elon Musk reposted the clip on X and wrote that it "sounds like treason".
• President Donald Trump and other Republican lawmakers criticized the remarks, with Trump calling for her resignation at rallies, as reported by the New York Post.
• Omar's Response: Rep. Omar dismissed the accusations as bigoted misinterpretations, fabricated narratives, and politically motivated attacks.

Earlier Treason Allegations (2019)

• The Allegations: In late 2019, congressional candidates George Buck (Florida) and Danielle Stella claimed without evidence that Rep. Omar was an asset of foreign entities or passed sensitive information to Iran, leading them to suggest she face execution or trial for treason.
• The Reactions:
• The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) and House Republican leadership removed George Buck from its candidate support program, as reported by Al Jazeera.
• Twitter permanently suspended Danielle Stella's campaign account for violating rules against violent threats, according to FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul.
• U.S. intelligence and federal agencies presented no evidence or official assessments supporting the claims.

Recent Federal Investigation (October 2026)

• Current Status: In October 2026, federal agents from Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the Department of Justice executed a search warrant at Rep. Omar’s Washington, D.C. home.
• Focus of Probe: According to reports from outlets like Fox 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul, the investigation centers on an examination of past immigration paperwork, naturalization history, and background details rather than a treason charge.
• Response: Rep. Omar’s legal team and spokespersons have characterized the investigation as a politically motivated escalation driven by political opponents.






By phart at 03,Nov,26 02:45 other posts of phart 
this reads like a soap opera script, what a tangled web of bullshit! geez,
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By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 12:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's certainly an interesting collection of allegations, but I noticed something:
where is the independently verifiable evidence?

The article relies heavily on unnamed sources, family friends, Facebook connections
and photographs. It produces a British marriage certificate, but that document, even if authentic, doesn't independently establish that the father named on it was Ilhan Omar's father.

And even if all the alleged family relationships were true, how exactly does that establish that Omar is an illegal immigrant?

The article doesn't provide ANY evidence that she entered the United States illegally, committed immigration fraud or obtained citizenship unlawfully.

There is a difference between a sensational story, an allegation and a proven fact.
If someone wants to accuse a person of immigration fraud, they need evidence of immigration fraud.

You're just confusing an intriguing family mystery with proof of a crime.

The article relies on the connection between these names:
Nur Omar Mohamed - Name used in US reporting and his obituary
Nur Said - Name used in Somali community accounts
Nur Said Elmi - Name appearing on the alleged British marriage certificate

These name combinations are very common in the Middle East.
More than 24.5 million people named Mohamed.
More than 3.4 million named Omar.
More than 1.6 million named Said.
More than 3.3 million named Nur.
About 137,618 people named Elmi as a surname, but there is no evidence to tie that name or that British marriage certificate to Ilhan Omar's father.




By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 16:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"Concede is a French word. What are you, French?"
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By phart at 28,Oct,26 08:46 other posts of phart 
food for thought

Yes, sending cash through the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is legal for legitimate purposes, though the Postal Service strongly discourages it due to high risks of theft and loss


So why should i feel my ballot is secure in the mail?
It has no cash value.
By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,26 10:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You answered your own question: "It has no cash value".

A mail carrier or a thief cannot buy a sandwich or pay their rent with a ballot, because it has no cash value. Stealing one ballot has almost zero benefit to the person doing it.

• Ballots are strictly tracked: Mail-in ballots use specific barcodes (like tracking a package). Voters can look up exactly where their ballot is online, from the moment it is mailed out to the moment it is received and counted by election officials.

• Tamper-evident envelopes: Ballots are sent in heavy, official envelopes. If someone opens it or messes with it, it is immediately obvious to the election workers who receive it.

• Signature verification: Even if someone did manage to steal a ballot, they cannot just fill it out and send it in. Election officials verify the signature on the outside of the envelope against the voter's signature on file. If they do not match, the ballot is flagged and rejected.

• It is a federal crime: Stealing or tampering with mail is a felony, but tampering with an election carries even harsher federal prison sentences and massive fines.

Here are the key points to list that explain exactly how the system prevents and catches mass ballot theft:

• Unique, Localized Designs: You can't just print fake ballots in bulk. Every single county—and often individual precincts—uses highly specific ballot layouts, paper weights, colors, and exact dimensions. A machine will immediately reject an outside or duplicated ballot.

• The Envelope is a Security Device: Ballots must be returned in official government-issued envelopes. They feature specialized logos, strict design standards, and high-visibility identifiers (like the USPS Official Election Mail Logo). A random stack of plain envelopes would be instantly flagged.

• Individualized Barcodes: Every outbound and return ballot envelope features a unique Intelligent Mail barcode (IMb). If a criminal stole 100 ballots from a neighborhood, the moment they tried to submit them, the system would flag them because the individual barcode must match a specific registered voter on the state enrollment list.

• Immediate Deactivation: Because voters can track their ballots online, if a voter realizes their ballot never arrived, they report it. The election office instantly deactivates the stolen barcode and issues a new one. Even if the thief tries to mail the stolen one in later, it’s already dead in the system.

• The Signature Bottleneck: To steal ballots in large numbers, a criminal would have to successfully forge the unique signature of hundreds of different people. Election offices use automated and bipartisan human review teams to check every single signature against the voter's official file (like a driver's license signature). Massive batches of forged signatures are incredibly easy to spot.

In short: Stealing one ballot is useless, and trying to steal a thousand triggers an overwhelming amount of digital and physical alarms.

Republicans are spreading this message, that is objectively not true, for political reasons;
it allows them to take actions like cutting early voting periods, reducing the number of polling places or drop boxes, and implementing stricter ID requirements.
These restrictions disproportionately impact specific groups of voters (such as hourly workers, students, and minorities), making it physically or logistically impossible for some citizens to cast their ballots. By creating barriers that successfully block eligible citizens from participating, these actions fit the definition of preventing people from voting for their chosen representatives.

It's not even benefiting Republicans anymore. But they drilled that idea into your head,
and now they can't take it out, especially not with Trump attaching his entire identity to election fraud.

It also gives Trump the ultimate fallback: he can claim the Democrats cheated if he loses, while framing any of his own rule-bending as just preventing them from cheating.
By phart at 01,Nov,26 13:11 other posts of phart 
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similar shit ,different year
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,26 11:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Old:
There are three important facts:
1. Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator Meagan Wolfe announced on October 1, 2020, that no Wisconsin absentee ballots were among the recovered mail.
2. One of the photographs released later appeared to show a Minnesota ballot.
3. Subsequent reporting connected the discarded mail to two men from Minnesota who had stolen mail in a postal crime spree. They were subsequently prosecuted.
The distinction matters: the original reports described absentee ballots among the mail, but there was no evidence that Wisconsin voters' ballots had been lost or deliberately targeted.
Potential impact What the evidence shows
Wisconsin votes lost: No Wisconsin ballots were involved, according to the state election administrator.
Election results changed: No evidence that this incident changed any election result.
Voter fraud: No evidence of a politically motivated scheme.
Public perception: Yes. The incident was widely amplified and used to question mail-in voting.
Political campaigning: Yes. President Trump publicly referred to discarded ballots during the 2020 campaign.

New:
- 92 undelivered mail-in ballots were found in a dumpster near Golden Gardens Park, close to Seattle.
- These were ballots that had been mailed to registered voters but had not reached them.
- King County election officials reported the discovery to Seattle police and the U.S. Postal Service.
- All 92 ballots were invalidated.
- Replacement ballots were issued to the affected voters.
- These were unreturned ballots, not completed votes that had been removed from the count.
- A person finding or possessing a blank ballot cannot simply submit it as a valid vote.
- Returned ballots undergo voter-registration checks, duplicate-vote screening and signature verification.

Risks of in-person Election Day voting:
• Long queues and congestion: Heavy turnout can cause delays and, in extreme cases, prevent people from voting before polls close.
• Equipment failures: Electronic voting machines, ballot scanners and electronic poll books can malfunction.
• Human error: Poll workers can make mistakes checking registration, issuing ballots or recording voter information.
• Voter intimidation: People may encounter intimidation or improper campaigning near polling stations.
• Accessibility: Illness, disability, transport problems or work commitments can prevent people from reaching polling stations.
• Physical security: Polling locations and election workers may face threats or disruptions.
• Voter-roll purging and incorrect registration removals: Eligible voters may be wrongly removed from voter registration lists, sometimes without their knowledge or adequate notification. They may only discover this when they arrive at the polling station on Election Day. Correcting the error can be difficult, time-consuming or impossible before polls close, potentially resulting in their legitimate vote not being counted.

Republicans have tried to make in-person Election Day voting for voters in blue areas
as difficult as possible. That's why masses of people voted early and checked that their ballots have been received and accepted.





By phart at 02,Nov,26 02:17 other posts of phart 
To put something together with nuts and bolts or screws, we normally turn them to the right to assemble things we want or need. Only when we want to disassemble them do we turn the screws or nuts left.

The lesson here is, to build something better,turn to the right,to tear it down turn to the left.
By leopoldij at 02,Nov,26 12:43 other posts of leopoldij 
That's a great analogy.



By phart at 01,Nov,26 01:35 other posts of phart 
cat,your picture here might help give us a chance to understand democrat vote counting.
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how can you have only 35 voters but 66 votes????????
Inquiring minds want to know.
By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,26 09:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Maybe people checked TWO boxes?
By phart at 01,Nov,26 13:12 other posts of phart 
is that "legit"?

By phart at 02,Nov,26 02:19 other posts of phart 
oh, and 35 times 2 is 70, or at least by the math I was taught in school, this new common core crap may come up with something else. But why only 66 if everyone checked 2 boxes.
By quint at 02,Nov,26 12:35 other posts of quint 
I bet if you actually thought about it, you could figure it out





By kebmo at 29,Oct,26 21:17 other posts of kebmo 
If you’ve got a problem with Canada, the whole world knows it’s you!

-American comedian in Halifax
By phart at 30,Oct,26 00:46 other posts of phart 
Well, europe dropped the idea of allowing canada to be a part of the eu, so um,
By quint at 31,Oct,26 01:03 other posts of quint 
that's funny.. Canada and the EU just signed the "Alliance for the Future" pact in Montreal. Today.
By phart at 31,Oct,26 02:07 other posts of phart 
The European Union has dropped the term "associate member" for Canada, replacing it with a commitment to an "ever closer association" short of full membership

in other words, don't call us we will call you if we need something!
By quint at 31,Oct,26 11:29 other posts of quint 
They're already calling. We have exactly what they need and plenty of it, but you already know that. The problem was really just about the name, not the actual idea of working together. Canada is it's own sovereign nation and doesn't need to be a member, or part of the EU. For Canada, it's about building a stronger future by diversifying to new and more reliable trading partners. It's like moving some of your eggs to new baskets, because you can't trust the old broken basket anymore
To me.. it sounds more like you just couldn't take the joke coming from an American comedian.

By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,26 09:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Legally and constitutionally, Canada cannot become a full member of the European Union under the bloc's current framework, nor does it desire to do so.

• Canada is on the wrong continent: To join the EU, a country must be located in Europe. Canada is completely in North America. They are separated by the Atlantic Ocean, which instantly disqualifies Canada based on geography.

• Canada doesn't want to follow Europe's rules: Joining the EU means letting leaders
in Europe make a lot of your laws. Canada would have to change its laws to match Europe’s rules on things like courts, taxes, and trade. Canada is an independent country and has zero interest in giving up its power to European politicians.

• The "Open Borders" problem: Full EU members must allow citizens from any other EU country to move in, live, and work without a visa. Canada wants to keep control over its own immigration laws and borders rather than opening them up to all of Europe.

• The EU is not accepting new members easily: Changing the rules to let a non-European country join would require all 27 EU countries to vote "yes." Many European countries (like Germany and France) already blocked the mere idea of calling Canada an "associate member" because they didn't want to complicate their system.






By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,26 09:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Ted Nugent: Buyer’s Remorse?
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By phart at 31,Oct,26 15:06 other posts of phart 
So much "cover your ass" going on in our government. a local cop is who actually saved lives when Trump was shot,but this is the first I read about him.
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And you know your President is rattling some cages when they have to put missiles near his house. That tells me he is doing his job and it is making our enemy's mad! That neighborhood is the most secure neighborhood in the US right now!
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By CAT52! at 30,Oct,26 23:40 other posts of CAT52! 
Oct 30, 19:19 system: You were blacklisted by Guess_Who

This dipshit who, until today, I didn’t know from Adam, blacklisted me. Okay, I’m thoroughly chastised. Oh, Sir, I’m soooo sorry for going against your religious beliefs, ie, sucking circumcised dicks. 🤣🤣🤣👿


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By phart at 19,Oct,26 02:36 other posts of phart 
UM< that wonderful Canada thing,
Well, it seems Alberta wants to start making some MONEY off it's oil reserves that it can't under the leadership of canada and is looking at going independent!
WOW,
And the prime minister says it is not good to do that during a trade war with the US. Well DUH, maybe not for canada, but great for Alberta because it could then sit down with the US and negotiate it's OWN trade deal with the US. A win win for all of us. How people can be against improving their way of life utilizing something that is underground and USELESS to them if not used or sold, is beyond me.
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By kebmo at 19,Oct,26 22:50 other posts of kebmo 
I voted today.
Quebec tried this in 1995 and voted to stay in Canada.
Alberta can't just secede.
It's more complicated than you understand.
By phart at 20,Oct,26 18:00 other posts of phart 
kinda sad, similar to what the confederacy tried to do and 1000's were killed over it.
By kebmo at 20,Oct,26 22:29 other posts of kebmo 
This is not even close to that. This is a whole different story.
Albertans voted about 75% in favour of staying in Canada.
Problem solved.
By phart at 20,Oct,26 23:31 other posts of phart 
musta been that "awesome" free health care. Dr's office parking lots all along the northern border are full of canadian cars
By kebmo at 21,Oct,26 01:46 other posts of kebmo 
I didn't know hillbillies went up to the northern border.
By phart at 21,Oct,26 02:45 other posts of phart 
We have spies! not quite a hill bille here, frankly, would be better off if I was, they are more capable of self sufficiency than regular county boys like my self

By Guess_Who at 21,Oct,26 04:53 other posts of Guess_Who 
Who is paying 300% tariffs now? Last time I checked it was nobody.. Trump is draining the canadian economy.. But the solution is to become america's 51st state.. It will happen. The only question is when. From what I heard Alberta is conservative and wants to be America.. Come on board.
By CAT52! at 25,Oct,26 04:01 other posts of CAT52! 
Not in a million years

By phart at 26,Oct,26 00:03 other posts of phart 
I don't think we need another state to keep up, We need to be getting RID of some territory's like porter riko and others that constantly drain our economy.





By Guess_Who at 20,Oct,26 22:52 other posts of Guess_Who 
I understand

By CAT52! at 25,Oct,26 04:03 other posts of CAT52! 
The Confederate States of America were a rough country wannabe dedicated to the enslavement of people.
By phart at 25,Oct,26 13:16 other posts of phart 
perhaps like alot of new yorker pier owners that voted to secede from the union as well?
New York City (1861): On January 7, 1861, New York City Mayor Fernando Wood proposed that the city secede from the United States to form an independent free city or city-state (named Tri-Insula) to protect its lucrative southern cotton and trade ties. The proposal was never put to a formal public vote and collapsed entirely after the attack on Fort Sumter in April 1861 united Northern public opinion behind the Union.

Most soldiers couldn't afford slaves, they were simply fighting to protect their home and family's, study history and they were FORCED to fight in most cases, read,

Yes, the Confederacy instituted the first national military draft in American history on April 16, 1862, to prevent its armies from dissolving as initial one-year enlistments expired.

Key Details of the Confederate Draft

• First Conscription Act (April 1862): Drafted all able-bodied white males aged 18 to 35 for three-year terms and automatically extended existing soldiers' enlistments.
• Age Expansions:
• September 1862: Expanded the age range to 18–45.
• February 1864: Expanded the range to 17–50 (with the youngest and oldest placed into state reserves)
OR keep this in mind>
Ab lincoln had a military draft to,
Yes, Union soldiers were drafted.
• The Enrollment Act of 1863: President Abraham Lincoln signed this federal law on March 3, 1863, establishing the first national military draft for men between the ages of 20 and 45.
• Avoidance Options: Draftees could legally avoid service by paying a $300 commutation fee or by hiring a paid substitute to take their place.
By CAT52! at 25,Oct,26 15:40 other posts of CAT52! 
What does all this prove? That a city government wanted to continue making money for the benefit of a city and its workers? That a misguided government at best and a corrupt, racist government at worst, tried to start a horrific form of government based on the backs of enslaved people?
I’ve been at site for about 14 yrs and in all that time you’ve been suggesting that the Confederate States of America was a legitimate cause. You’ve thrown facts about agriculture, finance, business, and federal oppression just to hide the fact that none of their existence relied on one true and undeniable fact: WITHOUT SLAVERY THEY COULD NOT SURVIVE. And you are alright with that.
By phart at 25,Oct,26 21:34 other posts of phart 
I seriously doubt slavery would have lasted very long if nothing had happened as far as a war. Cost, the same thing that affects business decisions today, would have made slavery a outdated and obsolete system before 1900.
Mechanization replaced manual labor for all humans and was and still is far cheaper and profitable.
By CAT52! at 26,Oct,26 00:17 other posts of CAT52! 
Okay. Good to know. You think an extra 40 some years of slavery would have been alright.
By phart at 26,Oct,26 02:08 other posts of phart 
No ,it was never alright ,but it was a century's old practice that would have eventually went away. Besides, it is still happening today. Tax payers are slaves. Let them try to stop paying taxes and see what happens. They may not be beaten with whips, but they will loose their homes and such and be in poverty for it.you are not "free" as you think you are in America,but you are free'er than you would be in china or north korea
By CAT52! at 26,Oct,26 19:20 other posts of CAT52! 
You forget that enslaving yourself to taxes is something we agree to. There’s got to be a way to pay for roads and a military. Same with anything that one single person couldn’t pay for it but a collective could. Think of it as a Fund Me page to help the nation.
And as far as thinking that we are lucky we don’t live in China or North Korea, I agree.











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By kebmo at 24,Oct,26 02:54 other posts of kebmo 
Donald Trump blinks again on tariffs with Canada.

TACO
By CAT52! at 25,Oct,26 15:42 other posts of CAT52! 
Heck, he does this so much you’d think he has Benign Essential Blepharospasm (BEB): A rare neurological disorder (focal dystonia) that causes involuntary, forceful muscle spasms and closing of both eyes, sometimes leading to temporary functional blindness.🤣🤣😈



By Guess_Who at 21,Oct,26 00:54 other posts of Guess_Who 
DEPORTATION? TRY JAIL: Trump Says Ilhan Omar 'Could Also Go to Jail' [WATCH]
posted by Hannity Staff - 10.20.26
President Trump just put Ilhan Omar on notice.

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Asked in the Oval Office on Tuesday whether Omar could be deported if there is a problem with her age, Trump didn’t blink.

We salute you President Trump the most wise Patriot in our country's history..

“She could be. She could also go to jail,” Trump said. “You know, they keep talking about deportation. No, she could go to jail. This is just my opinion.”

Breaking Alerts

Then he unloaded.

“I think she’s a sick, a very dishonest person, but who hates our country,” Trump said.

‘Not even a country’

Trump didn’t stop at Omar. He went after the country she came from.

“And she comes from a country that is essentially not even a country, Somalia. It’s a real s–thouse, okay?” he said. “It’s got no government.”

“All they do is have people running around shooting each other,” Trump added.

And now, he said, Omar wants to lecture Americans. “She wants to tell us how to run the United States of America,” Trump said. “She’s a disgrace to our country.”

He blasted what has happened to Omar’s home state of Minnesota, too: “And they’ve ruined a great state.”


We salute you President Trump the most wise Patriot in our country's history..

Trump made the remarks at the Oval Office event where he and Vice President JD Vance rolled out the Trump Administration’s $25 million Fraud Whistleblower Incentive Program.

The probe

Homeland Security Investigations agents searched Omar’s Washington home around 6 a.m. on Oct. 12 in a federal probe of whether Omar or her father falsified information on her citizenship paperwork. Agents seized her phone, passport, and computer, The Wall Street Journal reported. Prosecutors have not charged Omar, D-Minn.

Border czar Tom Homan has said the allegations, if proven, could cost Omar her citizenship.:x


We salute you President Trump the most wise Patriot in our country's history..


By Guess_Who at 07,Oct,26 22:03 other posts of Guess_Who 
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By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Oct,26 22:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He said (something like) that in 2015.
By Guess_Who at 07,Oct,26 22:51 other posts of Guess_Who 
so what's your fucking point. You are saying he changed his mind or are you an antisemitic piece of shit no good motherfucker?
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Oct,26 08:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Maybe he didn't, but holding him to a eleven-year-old comment lacks empathy.
Did someone ask him if he thinks that this is just self-defense?



By Guess_Who at 08,Oct,26 09:28 other posts of Guess_Who 
I prefer talking to men of good character.. And you are far from it..

You are talking to a judaen. You've got no fucking character, none. You promised you wouldn't talk to me.. Another fucking lie..

Your a racist, a fucking moron and a biased fucktard. You've got nothing.. You're just stupid enough to be a dope//// You fucking come on here and rather than show through the main directive you come here to show your hate..

You said you would not bother me with Jewish Hate. I'm telling you for the 2nd time.. DO NOT WRITE TO ME AGAIN>.
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Oct,26 14:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I didn't promise not to talk to you publicly. You are here on the marketplace of ideas, and I'm not letting you spout your nonsense unchallenged. Go somewhere else,
if you need a safe space, snowflake.

When we talked privately, I was open, honest, decent, and direct with you, while you were patronizing and rude, when you didn't like an argument that you could not refute. You constantly attack the person instead of the argument. I only address your behavior when you cross every line of decency. You even leaked our private chat,
thinking it would hurt me. It didn’t; I am the exact same person in private
as I am in public. You only showed everyone here who truly lacks character.
By Guess_Who at 08,Oct,26 15:13 other posts of Guess_Who 
sure thing asshole.... NOBODY supports you .
The last shitpile I gave to you from the heart I didn't mean it.. I just wanted to know what that button was for. Of course you think you have character. Any fucktard asshole with rationalize.. Problem is how fucked up you are..


You have not told me you don't hate Jews... You'd be a good nazi fag killing them then caught and hung. The best description of your character is nothing but a fucking dirtbag.
This is by definition.. More precisely I'd have to be true to myself and it tells me the fucking toilet needs to be flushed.. This is all from hating Israelies and Donald Trump.. This is all you do..

3rd time to shut the fuck up already.. You keep doing this I'll throw so many shitpiles on your page it will drown you.

By Guess_Who at 08,Oct,26 15:37 other posts of Guess_Who 
as long as you post shit about people I love .. Yeah.. You should have taken the deal..

Here's the deal.. when I get 150 points comes another shitpile..

Posting hate while not posting pictures of exhibitionism deserves a shit pile because you are not who you say you are.. You're a fucking fake.

By Guess_Who at 08,Oct,26 16:38 other posts of Guess_Who 
You've got severe Trump Derrangement Syndrome. More on a profound scale.. Other than Cat52! I have yet to see anyone else that supports you.. You started showing me your hate yet you have shown anyone or groups that you love and why.

You can do what you want. You think it gives you power but when the judges come out you've accomplished nothing that is good for you. Many people have hated the Jews in empires that have fallen. Dead.. The reason is money that the vatican thirsts for.

This was is totally justified since really the only country that has flaundered with racial hatred is IRGC.. Have you noticed more and more Iranians are starting to show Israeli flags? Many streets are being changed in Tehran for Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanhahu.. That's because the inspiration for God is powerful.. 50,000 people have been murdered cold blood.. How are you going to regain your power then there are now millions of people with boots on the grount execution IRGC members ... Yet Iranians have good character offering the IRGC the chance to live. The crown prince is a wonderful leader. I feel inspired for he knows what is best for Iran.

Back in 2012 when Obama made the Iran Deal I made a prayer which includes Palestinians, Lebanonees, Yemanees,,,To live in harmony for they are not the enemies to Israel...We've gone over this before but you're an ignorant fucktard that just hates other groups , israelies, Jews ,,,,, Me included.. And dont tell me you dont because you do..

I prayed Trump would win in 2016 and with all the lies the media posted ,,, Trump got elected,,, Hillary lost I walked to the lake at 11PM, cried and said "Hale o'Israel--- God is good, God is leader and we love you God for we know you are the ONLY God.. The God that God from into the heavens which is everything down through the earth below. The hand, the mind and the heart when they come together as one it creates perfect unbreakable harmony. He answered my prayer and you can do nothing about it.. Ever

Our private conversations was to get you out of the gutter.. For a while I believed you.. I made a mistake.. I will never create this mistake again.. You will live, no growth, just dumb then getting dumber until your last breath..... I didn't make you done.. You've done it to yourself. You can't destroy israel.. They cannot be destroyed. They won't hurt you but you will..
By Ananas2xLekker at 12,Oct,26 11:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Iranian regime's brutality is real. It still doesn't justify bombing a country
back to the Stone Age. Condemning a regime's crimes is not the same as
wanting its people bombed. And starting with a girls' school? WTF!

Everything else in your post is personal abuse and unsupported accusations
about my beliefs. You have one legitimate point about Iran, but you haven't made
a case against me.

You keep trying to expose my character. All you're doing is showing everyone yours.
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 15:54 other posts of Guess_Who 
I don't give a shit about your character. It is not the truth you are seeking but nothing more than a fucking political hack. I can see right through you. Next shit pile is is brewing up.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 20:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Character attacks are your only 'argument', bozo.
By Guess_Who at 18,Oct,26 07:27 other posts of Guess_Who 
So this is the best you can do. You being a stupid fool is not my responsibility. It is not me you are debating. It is the truth you don't like because you're a fucking idiot.. So Why blame me for it?



By phart at 16,Oct,26 15:05 other posts of phart 
you don't seem to understand, those people could RUN or walk or crawl or die trying, to get AWAY from those regimes, but they stay,which is about the same as driving the car for the bank robbers.





By phart at 13,Oct,26 17:31 other posts of phart 
What you see there in those photos is tragic for the few innocent people involved. BUT few are innocent ,mostly the kids are, because the adults elected a terrorist group to lead them. There is repercussions for stupidity and this is 1 of them. being blown off the map. Besides, when terrorist build under a hospital, how do YOU propose getting to them to get rid of them??

I mean look at America, we are living thru the repercussions of 2 terms of obama, and a term of biden, and the 1 man with the gonads to go against the failed system ,is constantly harassed and blocked and kicked. We are lucky to have Trump. We could be like some of those european countries, over run by rioting idoits that won't go to school like in france.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Oct,26 20:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The few innocent people involved? Tens of thousands of children alone.
You're describing 'collective punishment' by definition. That's a WAR CRIME.
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The Fourth Geneva Convention (1949). The US ratified this treaty in 1955.

What you are going through right now are the horrible ideas of Trump.
He is a reverse Robin Hood; he steals from the poor to give to the wealthy.

French people are protesting their government and the wealthy they service.
They have balls, you are neutered.
By phart at 13,Oct,26 22:14 other posts of phart 
Well the french need to quit protesting and get to work so they can be rich on their own instead of bitching about others that did invest in themselves and in industry.
You have to invest something to get something. you are entitled to NOTHING
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 15:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
French workers DO work, and when they do, they invest their time, health, and labor into the economy. That is their investment. Why should corporate elites be entitled to record profits off that labor, while the workers are 'entitled to nothing'?
You're literally bragging about your own exploitation.

If everyone had your submissive mindset, we’d still be working 16-hour days
in coal mines for pennies.
By phart at 14,Oct,26 18:05 other posts of phart 
and your food would cost pennies and your gas would cost pennies,
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 19:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, because the wealthy would own everything and would
only allow you the absolute minimum you need to survive.
Do you know anything about the time of lords and serfs?

By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Oct,26 13:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You are imagining a fantasy world where perfect market competition instantly forces corporations to drop their prices to pennies the second wages go down.
In the real world, without labor leverage, you don't get cheap goods, you get a Dual Economy. (An economy split between luxury production for the ultra-rich
and survival markets for the impoverished)

When you strip workers of all buying power, corporations simply stop making products for the masses. Why build millions of affordable cars or houses if the workers can't buy them anyway? Instead, the entire economy shifts to service
the only people who still have money: the hyper-wealthy elites.

Industries stop competing for your pennies and start competing for the billions
at the top. The economy shifts its resources entirely toward:
1. Luxury production: Yachts, mansions, private security, and high-end tech.
2. Asset hoarding: Buying up all the land, housing, and resources, and renting them back to the impoverished workers.

Mass-market products don't become "cheaper" to match your crashed wages; they just become lower quality, while basic needs like housing remain as expensive as possible, because you must have them to survive.

So, this completely contradicts your economic arguments, but it doesn't contradict your personal opinions.

IF you are actually perfectly fine with a system where a handful of billionaires exploit the rest of humanity like modern-day slaves, just say so.
Stop trying to twist the laws of economics to justify it. Once you admit that,
we can finally have a discussion about what this is really about: why on earth
do you want a world like that?

By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Oct,26 13:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
SURVIVAL MARKETS for the masses: When you destroy regulatory agencies
to boost corporate profits, you create a deadly food system for the poor, while
the rich remain completely untouched.

The Trump administration and HHS Secretary RFK Jr. actively gutted the system by firing thousands of FDA employees, cutting the number of food safety inspectors in half, and defunding disease surveillance. The result is a massive, record-breaking outbreak of Cyclospora parasites from human fecal contamination in the country's mass-market lettuce supply, alongside rolled-back meat safety checks.

Donald Trump, RFK Jr., and the corporate elites who lobbied for these cuts aren't eating that poop-contaminated lettuce or parasite-ridden meat. The ultra-rich don’t shop at regular grocery stores or eat mass-produced food affected by these supply chain collapses. They buy from exclusive, hyper-expensive organic boutiques that source from private, highly verified farms, or they have personal chefs who vet their food.

The elites use their political power to eliminate the regulations that keep your food safe just to grow their stock portfolios. Then, they use that extra profit to buy their way out of the toxic reality they just created for everyone else. They privatize the safety and socialize the poison.

By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Oct,26 15:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Gas prices are important for you, I understand, but why fight for pennies
at the pump, if you have to sell your car to pay for your health?

You are cheerleading a system that is actively costing you everything.
Can you actually afford your (next) life-saving medical procedure(s)?
Healthcare should be a service that you have already paid for with your
decades of hard labor and tax dollars. Yet, it is deeply tragic to see you
willing to face financial ruin (and possibly death) to keep away the very
protection that you earned.

I just hope the billionaires you defend turn out to be just as loyal to your health
as you have been to their bank accounts.
By phart at 15,Oct,26 16:43 other posts of phart 
I don't think you understand. Without people that payed more taxes than myself, had more money than myself, being able to invest in a business- company, I would not have had a fucking job to get hurt and retire from in the first place??Money does not drop out of the sky as soon as you turn 18 for you to live on, you get a education and or you get a job! And if you are smart you get a job that offers benefits like retirement, health coverage, sick leave and etc.
But no, there are these new age liberal morons that think they deserve all that for simply being squirted out of their moms puss and hitting the floor crying for their first hand out. I have a steady income now until i die, steady, although not the greatest, health insurance long as I live, until obama got ahold of it I had damn good insurance. But these liberals that bounce from 1 job to the other,for 50 cent on the hour,no longevity,no retirement,no nothing,and can't figure out why they can't afford to buy a mansion like Elons, that did just the oppisite of them, are the reason for the mess we are in now.
By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Oct,26 19:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And why did you vote for Trump then, if everything better is impossible?
Trump promised to change EVERYTHING. If you really believed that nothing will help, why did that message resonate with you?

Or was it only that Trump shows his hate for all the people you hate?

You think that the government needs to spend NOTHING on average people and give the billionaires full control over everything, to punish people, if they
are not working hard enough. Where does that leave YOU?
By phart at 16,Oct,26 04:40 other posts of phart 
it leaves me where I have always been,on my own,As capable adult humans should be, on their own to work and do for themselves.

I voted Trump because I knew the cackler would take us even further down the toilet than biden did with obama in his ear
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,26 14:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Humans would have been long extinct, if we hadn't worked together.
Our strength lies in solidarity. It's what makes us human.
By Guess_Who at 18,Oct,26 07:29 other posts of Guess_Who 
No, it isn't. We are still here because you maintain a useless parameter.. Thank God there is less of you.



By Guess_Who at 20,Oct,26 23:52 other posts of Guess_Who 
A liberal AND being a jackass equals a total fuck up.. When you look at your ugly face in the mirror that's exactly what you see.














By kebmo at 20,Oct,26 02:50 other posts of kebmo 
Donald Trump said last week that he wants all Canadians to interfere with the American election, so here I go.

If you're sick of his bullshit, but can't swallow the thought of voting for a Democrat, just stay home. Take the day off and relax. Don't vote for anyone!

With love, your neighbour.


By phart at 19,Oct,26 18:21 other posts of phart 
Ok liberals and democrats, read for yourself why this long time business is having to close.
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By kebmo at 18,Oct,26 16:08 other posts of kebmo 
“In what universe is Russia a better friend of the United States than Canada? In no universe. What I really worry about is that China is the big winner right now.”

Chrystia Freeland, Former deputy prime minister of Canada
and author of Unreliable Boyfriend
By phart at 18,Oct,26 21:35 other posts of phart 
well here is a example of what was working well in Russia before putin did his thing.

Key Operations and American Participation

• Stevenson-Sputnik LLC: Founded in 2010 near Voronezh, Russia, by Montana rancher Darrell Stevenson alongside Russian business partners (Sergei Goncharov and Alexander Buzuleyev). The project transplanted thousands of head of U.S. Angus and Hereford cattle, equipment, and American cowboy methods to help build a domestic beef herd.
• Miratorg Agribusiness Holding: Owned by Russian executives (Viktor and Aleksander Linnik), this massive vertical operation is one of the world's largest cattle producers. It heavily relied on American expertise, importing U.S. Angus genetics, horses, saddles, and hiring American ranch managers and trainers (such as Phil George from Kansas and trainers from Wyoming) to train local Russian workers.
• Certified Angus Beef (CAB) Partnership: Miratorg partnered with Certified Angus Beef to implement U.S. and Canadian quality standards across hundreds of thousands of commercial Angus cattle and feedyards in western Russia



By phart at 18,Oct,26 14:11 other posts of phart 
1 tradition at the time,being taken away by a muslim in power
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first it was what made New York Pizza special,now it is the way tourist are able to enjoy the city.
What next?


By kebmo at 15,Oct,26 12:21 other posts of kebmo 
The American ambassador to Canada and others in the Trump administration have recently said that Canada should stay out of the US election and not interfere with it.

Let me assure you that if we had the power to interfere with the US election, Donald Trump would not be your current president!
By phart at 15,Oct,26 14:14 other posts of phart 
We know and we appreciate your not interfering and letting our votes count for who the majority wanted in 2024,Now,what would be a great idea, is for you folks to spread this idea to our mutual enemy's, like iran, it would help you in the long run

By Guess_Who at 18,Oct,26 07:30 other posts of Guess_Who 
So now we aren't giving you money anymore. Poor Boobie



By kebmo at 17,Oct,26 22:25 other posts of kebmo 
Poor Donnie had to fire his press secretary. She lasted half a Scaramucchi.
By Guess_Who at 18,Oct,26 07:24 other posts of Guess_Who 
What difference does that make?



By phart at 16,Oct,26 15:07 other posts of phart 
You can't make this up!
What kind of a library could you make for him that would make any sense? The world now knows he has health issues and is not doing well,but those issues were in place while he was filling depends and the oval office.
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By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 20:42 other posts of Guess_Who 
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You can’t call yourself anti racist if you consider people of color so much lesser than white people that you think they can’t be expected to behave appropriately in a given setting, by the way. Show me a biological difference between a white person and a person of color that requires the latter to be held to a low standard, and I will show you a social construct. If you’re someone who says things like, “they don’t know any better/it’s in their nature/they don’t know how to do that/they are physically incapable of doing that/you shouldn’t expect better from them/etc” you are a white supremacist and you deserve to be punched in the throat
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 21:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I’m actually quite flattered that you want to honor our respected Dutch artist
with this beautiful quote! However, I have to correct you: Van Gogh unfortunately
never said or wrote this.

The misconception started around 2009, when a museum in Basel used this phrase
on the flap jacket of a Van Gogh exhibition catalog without a proper source. The internet did the rest, permanently gluing his name to it. In reality, the metaphor is much closer
to a line from the 19th-century French writer Йmile Zola.

The underlying sentiment does resonate with my philosophy on life. For me, walking off the paved road means refusing to adopt off-the-shelf opinions or blindly follow a crowd.
My views and thoughts are entirely my own, shaped by careful reflection rather than consensus. It requires independent thought, but I can highly recommend it.
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 21:39 other posts of Guess_Who 
It requires a soul for an introspective objective reason. I understand the comment, you don't. I take it he told you he never said it. And really?? even if he didn't say it does it dilute its true value? Just living life of conformity has no flowers meaning you live a dull unevenful life. Going outside the lines in coloring shows the true nature of you path.

So what is so hard to figure out
By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Oct,26 09:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Funny how you switched an uncommented image with the quote
"Normality is a paved road: It’s comfortable to walk, but no flowers grow",
that was attributed to Vincent van Gogh in your picture, to your Zionist propaganda.

Funny and a good trick. A RAT MOVE, but you tricked me.
It just shows that you cannot be trusted on ANYTHING.
By Guess_Who at 15,Oct,26 11:14 other posts of Guess_Who 
You've been saving so much money on flushing the toilet. I'm indeed thankful.

By Guess_Who at 15,Oct,26 17:05 other posts of Guess_Who 
The only shitpile hatred from the bottom of the shit heap mentions jews as Zionists. From now on the only thing you ever hear from now on will be shitpiles pouring on your fucking fake page.

You resort to this fucking stupidity because you can't debate heads up so you play the fucking victim. This only shows your incompeted means of reasoning. NO REASONING.

The planet is contaminated by you.How can I TRICK you of telling the truth where the only person you tricked is yourself? . The problem is YOU. You still haven't answered my question of what fucking planet you are from after parachuting onto earth.

I'd tell you to GET BENT but you are already passed that level of stupidity..

This is not ZIONEST propaganda. It all comes down to you.. Only you.. Fucking jackass.

Just like any asshole that stinks up the place.. You should be ashamed of yourself.. Take a look at you. Your a little fucking bitch.






By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 20:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Wow, Donald Trump’s new White House press secretary,
Katie Zacharia, really is the craziest deranged cretin,
of the whole line of bodged Barbie clones, I have ever seen.

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By Guess_Who at 12,Oct,26 21:32 other posts of Guess_Who 
The Quran mentions the assignment of the Holy Land to the Children of Israel (Bani Israel) in Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5, Verse 21) and Surah Al-Isra (Chapter 17, Verse 104).

Specific Verses

• Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21): Moses tells his people: "O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] turn back as losers."
• Surah Al-Isra (17:104): Allah addresses them: "And thereafter We said to the Children of Israel, 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.
Key Context and Interpretations

• The Holy Land: Islamic commentary generally identifies the "Holy Land" (Al-Ard Al-Muqaddasah) as the region encompassing Palestine and Canaan.
• Condition of Righteousness: Traditional Islamic scholarship notes that while the Quran acknowledges the land was assigned to the Children of Israel, the inheritance and God's favor are tied to righteousness, obedience to God's commands, and moral behavior rather than an unconditional, permanent title.
• Ultimate Ownership: The Quran emphasizes that ultimate ownership of all the earth belongs to Allah, who grants it to whomever He wills among His servants.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Oct,26 21:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"The God Delusion" from Richard Dawkins mentions the following:

Chapter 7, Page 248: "The conquest of the Promised Land is presented as a series of divine commands to exterminate every living thing, to leave nothing that breathes. This is not just bad morality; it is a terrifying blueprint for ethnic cleansing, justified solely by the claim that a particular piece of territory was 'promised' to a specific group of people by their God."

Chapter 8, Page 259: "The take-home message is that 'thou shalt not kill' applies only to the in-group. Religion is a label of in-group/out-group identification, and it is a potent source of conflict... It is hard to see any solution to the problem as long as children are systematically brought up to believe that they are 'chosen' or 'special' by virtue of their ancestors' religion."
By Guess_Who at 13,Oct,26 21:36 other posts of Guess_Who 
Asshole.. this was written in the 7th century and its in the quran.. are you saying it isn;t true? This is legal.

Everyone is reading this.. I need 2 points for the next shitpile..
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 14:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I know, so what?
What makes something true?
Is something true, when it is written in an old book?
Why does the age of a book matter for the content being true?

"This is legal"? WTF are you talking about?
By Guess_Who at 14,Oct,26 15:15 other posts of Guess_Who 
If you know then why not just shut the fuck already?
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 15:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"this was written in the 7th century and its in the quran"
THIS is what I know. WHY DOES IT MATTER??

Here are some other 7th-century myths:

1. The Seven Sleepers of Ephesus
A group of young men flee religious persecution and hide inside a cave, where God places them and their dog into a deep sleep to protect them. They remain asleep for over 300 years, with the text explicitly detailing how God periodically rolls them from their left to their right sides to prevent their bodies and clothes from rotting, while their dog keeps watch at the entrance with its paws stretched out. Upon waking, the men believe they have only slept for a single afternoon, discovering the truth only when they attempt to buy bread in the city using coins that are centuries out of date.

2. The Iron Wall of Dhul-Qarnayn
A legendary king travels to the physical ends of a flat earth, reaching the furthest western point where he witnesses the sun setting directly into a dark, muddy pool of water, and then the furthest eastern point where the sun rises over people who have no shelter from its heat. During his journey, he encounters a terrified population plagued by the apocalyptic tribes of Gog and Magog, and he protects them by pouring an immense barrier of molten iron and copper between two mountains, sealing millions of these destructive creatures behind the wall until the end of days.

3. The Transmutation of the Sabbath Breakers
The inhabitants of a coastal town attempt to bypass strict religious laws that forbid fishing on the Saturday Sabbath by setting up their nets on Friday evening and harvesting the trapped fish on Sunday morning. In immediate response to this theological loophole, God intervenes and instantly mutates the entire deceptive population of the town into physical apes and swine as a permanent public punishment for their trickery.

4. The Voyage of Cesair and the Birth of Ireland
Before the Great Flood, Noah’s granddaughter, Cesair, is denied a place on the Ark because of her pagan beliefs. Under divine guidance, she builds three giant ships and sets sail across the uncharted oceans with fifty women and only three men, including her father Bith and the shapeshifter Fintan. After a perilous voyage, they land on the uninhabited shores of Ireland, exactly forty days before the deluge begins. When the global flood finally hits, the entire colony drowns except for Fintan, who survives for thousands of years by magically transforming into a salmon, an eagle, and a hawk, witnessing the entire subsequent history of the island and the arrival of the magical Tuatha Dй Danann warriors.

Do you believe that they are all true, because they are from the 7th century?







By Guess_Who at 13,Oct,26 22:55 other posts of Guess_Who 
The Holocaust and Genocides During WWII

• The Holocaust: The most prominent genocide during World War II was the Holocaust (also known as the Shoah), in which Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered approximately six million European Jews—about two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population—between 1941 and 1945.
• Other Targeted Groups: Nazi Germany also committed genocides and mass atrocities against other populations, including the Romani people (Porajmos), millions of Soviet prisoners of war and Slavic civilians, Polish citizens, people with disabilities (Action T4), and political dissidents.
• Mechanisms: These mass killings were carried out through mobile killing squads (Einsatzgruppen), forced starvation in ghettos, slave labor in concentration camps, and industrial extermination camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau and Treblinka.

Other Atrocities of the War

• Japanese Empire Atrocities: Outside of Europe, Imperial Japan committed massive war crimes and atrocities against civilian populations and prisoners of war across Asia and the Pacific, such as the Nanking Massacre and human experimentation by Unit 731, though historians classify these events under war crimes, crimes against humanity, or mass violence alongside specific definitions.
• Broader Distinction: While the Second World War involved vast conventional battles between nations, the ideology of the Nazi regime turned large portions of the conflict into a deliberate, bureaucratic program of racial extermination, as documented in historical overviews like Genocides in history.
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By phart at 14,Oct,26 03:44 other posts of phart 
Odd that you mentioned Unit 731 , I recently read about the large facility they found and what all was done there. If you wanted to know how long a human could live while on fire, there are records to tell you that,if you want to know long it takes for acid to kill a human, there is records for that. Honestly, it makes you wonder which bunch was the worst? Hitler or the Japanese.
And here is the kicker,
Postwar Accountability: Following World War II, the United States granted immunity to Ishii and key unit members in exchange for their secret human experimentation and research data. The Soviet Union prosecuted twelve members at the 1949 Khabarovsk War Crime Trials. In 2002, the Tokyo District Court formally acknowledged the Japanese military's biological warfare atrocities

Of course we did the same for Hitlers bunch ,that's why we had color tv and rockets and jet planes and such before our home grown tech had caught up. Sadly, the research hitlers jewish doctors did to cure and treat cancer was all hidden away, to much money made nowadays in the treatment and Control of cancer, no money to made with cures. That was 1 of Hitlers worst fears, dying of cancer
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 15:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OMG, what are you guys babbling about? Guess_Who is just copying random shit about WWII, that makes zero sense in any context, because he doesn't add any actual arguments or conclusions. And phart is just spouting every conspiracy theory that his algorithm's rabbit hole threw up in his face.

By sheer numbers, Hitler's regime was far worse than Unit 731. Bias against Asians seems to be the only reason to claim otherwise.

In some ways wars advance science, but in other ways wars throw back humanity for decades. The most useful advances in science are made during peacetime, when governments are not wasting money and people on murdering other people.

Believing that Hitler's scientists developed a general cure for cancer is based on complete ignorance of biological science. Cancer is not a single disease, it is hundreds
of different diseases, driven by distinct genetic mutations that cause cells to divide uncontrollably, in lots of different ways. You cannot cure it with a single, general silver bullet. To even attempt a universal fix, you would need advanced, targeted gene therapy to rewrite DNA at a cellular level. That technology was lightyears out of reach in the 1940s, and it remains one of our most complex scientific frontiers today. There was
no hidden cure, it's bullshit.




By Guess_Who at 13,Oct,26 22:52 other posts of Guess_Who 
The Quran details the parting of the Red Sea and the entry into the Holy Land across several chapters (Surahs), focusing on Prophet Musa (Moses) and the Children of Israel (Bani Isra'il).

🌊 The Parting of the Red Sea

The miracle of Allah opening the sea to save the Israelites from Pharaoh is mentioned in multiple places:
• Surah Al-Baqarah (2:50): "And [remember] when We parted the sea for you and saved you and drowned the people of Pharaoh while you were looking on."
• Surah Ash-Shu'ara (26:63-65): Allah commands Musa to strike the sea with his staff, parting it into twelve distinct paths like massive mountains, allowing them to cross safely.
• Surah Ta-Ha (20:77): Musa is commanded to strike a dry path through the sea for his people.

🗺️ Entering the Holy Land

The command and assignment of the Holy Land to the Children of Israel are explicitly stated in:
• Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:21): Musa tells his people: "O my people, enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you and do not turn back [from fighting in Allah's cause] and [thus] become losers."
• Surah Al-A'raf (7:137): "And We caused the people who had been oppressed to inherit the eastern regions of the land and the western ones, which We had blessed..."
• Surah Yunus (10:93): "And We surely settled the Children of Israel in an agreeable settlement and provided them with good things..."
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Oct,26 14:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Parting of the Red Sea is based on a much older story.

Enuma Elish (Babylonian) — c. 18th–12th Century BCE
• The Myth: The god Marduk splits the primeval water goddess Tiamat in half to create the ordered world.
• Biblical Adaptation: The writers transformed this cosmic battle into a historical event, where Yahweh splits the sea to conquer chaos (Egypt) and create a path for His people.

The Westcar Papyrus (Egyptian) — c. 1600–1500 BCE
• The Myth: A royal magician folds one half of a lake's water onto the other half to retrieve a lost jewel from the dry lake bed.
• Biblical Adaptation: The visual imagery of standing walls of water exposing the dry floor was localized into the Exodus narrative.

The Baal Cycle (Canaanite) — c. 1400 BCE
• The Myth: The storm god Baal defeats Yam (the god of the sea and chaos) to establish his kingship.
• Biblical Adaptation: Israelite writers used the exact same poetic language. Yahweh uses a powerful wind (a storm-god attribute) to conquer Yam (the Hebrew word for sea) and demonstrate His supreme authority over rival Canaanite deities.

The Book of Exodus (Hebrew Bible) — c. 6th Century BCE
• The Synthesis: Written down much later (largely during the Babylonian Exile), this narrative combined these well-known regional motifs into a single historical epic to prove that their God, Yahweh, controlled the elements.

Divine Land Allocation is also a very ancient theme.

Sumerian & Babylonian Royal Inscriptions — c. 2500–1800 BCE
• The Myth: Gods like Enlil or Marduk directly assign fertile territories, kingdoms, and city borders to specific kings and their peoples to establish divine order.
• The Adaptation: The concept of a supreme deity drawing physical borders and handing a specific piece of earth to a designated group was already a standard legal and religious practice in Mesopotamia.

The Egyptian Conception of Sacred Soil — c. 2000 BCE
• The Myth: The creator god Amun-Ra designates the fertile Nile valley specifically for the Egyptians since the creation of the world (Zep Tepi), while framing outside lands as chaotic.
• The Adaptation: Regional nations adopted the Egyptian idea that living on a specific, god-given piece of land was a requirement for spiritual purity and divine blessing.

The Hittite and Amorite Land Claims — c. 1800–1400 BCE
• The Myth: Migrating Near Eastern tribes claimed their storm gods (like Tarhunz or Amurru) commanded them to march into, conquer, and settle specific fertile valleys.
• The Adaptation: Invading or migrating groups consistently used the "divine mandate"
to 'legally' and 'morally' justify taking over lands that were already occupied by others.

The Hebrew Bible & Later Islamic Texts — c. 6th Century BCE & 7th Century CE
• The Synthesis: The biblical writers (and later the Quran) took this ancient, universal political tool, using a god to legitimize territorial ownership, and tied it to their own monotheistic covenant. The land was no longer just won by strength; it was an inheritance granted by the one true God based on religious obedience.

From a literal, historical perspective, this recycling undermines the claim of unique divine revelation. It demonstrates that these stories are human literary products, evolved folklore rather than eyewitness history.

Far from proving history, this continuous copying proves something else: that myths
are just tools humans invent to claim territory and assert dominance over rival cultures.






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